> A "bogie table" for DQ sounds interesting, I'd love
> a copy, if you don't
> mind.

> I've always been fascinated by the concept of quirks
> and disadvantages
> that somehow grant a character more starting
> "juice", as it were. I
> think it would add to the role-playing aspect of
> things, if done right.
> I've never actually played a game that has this in
> it, even though the
> D&D 3e *could* have this, in theory.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

--- In dq-rules@y..., William Hough <houghpt@y...> wrote:
> --- "J. K. Hoffman" <ryumaou@s...> wrote:
> > A "bogie table" for DQ sounds interesting, I'd love
> > a copy, if you don't
> > mind.
>
> Sure; give me a day or so.
>
> > I've always been fascinated by the concept of quirks
> > and disadvantages
> > that somehow grant a character more starting
> > "juice", as it were. I
> > think it would add to the role-playing aspect of
> > things, if done right.
> > I've never actually played a game that has this in
> > it, even though the
> > D&D 3e *could* have this, in theory.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
>
> Well...see what you think of the table first, and by
> all means change what you don't like or add stuff
> yourself.
>
> - Pat Hough
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> Off-topic a little bit: I was surprised when my group
> of DQ players, who should certainly know better, got
> cute at the beginning of the current scenario while
> still in town, and devised schemes to make a ton of
> silver pennies in the quest for more magic items. I
> could have stopped them in town, but what followed is
> much better.
>
> The current scenario is none other than Paul Jaquays'
> "The Enchanted Wood". Whoops! All I did was increase
> the stats of the major villians (particularly Grask,
> Wulgreth, and oh yeah that annoying elf bandit chick
> and her ambush party) while doubling the amount of
> critters that show up in random encounters.

>
> Now they are having a tough time; not a deadly time,
> but definitely challenging.
>
> - Pat Hough
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I wouldn't mind getting a copy of the table, and I certainly would like to hear more about rpg aids which may be available

 Sometimes it is just necessary to be silent, and rest in the fact that we are in the arms of God

> To all who received (by request) a copy of the
> Bogey
> Table for DragonQuest:
>
> The table mentions in several areas either
> minuses or
> additions to the skills of Climbing and
> Swimming. It
> occurs to me that not every DQ player will have
> these
> supplemental skills in their DQ library.
>
> Climbing and Swimming skills originated in
> Dragon
> Magazine #92 with an article by Paul M Crabaugh
> entitled "Going Up and Getting Wet".
>
> In addition, Mr. Crabaugh came up with the
> Hunting
> skill for DragonQuest 14 months earlier in
> Dragon #78.
> The article was called "The Thrill of the Hunt
> -
> DragonQuest Rules for Finding 'Fresh' Food".
>
> I have all three of these skills contained in a
> single
> MS-Word file, if you want them. Drop me a line
> if so.
>
> Ask about our other RP aids! ;-)
>
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> Combat has of late been getting a little dull in my
> group. I think
> there are seveal problems, and I will try and
> explain each of them in
> turn.
>
> 1) It takes forever!
> I have posted about this many times on many boards.
> Some of you seem
> to run very efficient combats, mine seem to take
> hours. How do your
> combats move so quickly? have you faced this
> problem, and if so,
> what techniques do you use to combat it (pardon the
> pun).

> 2) Lack of flair.
> I used to have a great player. he would always
> describe the action
> he was taking in entertaining detail.... "I throw my
> sword to the
> ground and jump on the demons back" etc... Perhaps
> if I did more of
> this, my players would "join in". How do you
> describe your combats
> to keep them fresh? It too often goes "I swing at
> him <roll>"

> 3) Gauging the opposition.
> I am too afraid to kill my PCs, an that is my own
> fault. So the
> fights are often too easy. Do you guys have any
> quick formulas to
> measuring the qulity of a combat?

> 4) The players know a lot.
> They have done extensive calculations to determine
> the best way for
> them to approach combat. SO it tends to be more
> mathmateics than
> entertainment.

> Any thoughts/emotions/idea/accusations/denials on
> any of these topics?
>
> John

--- In dq-rules@y..., William Hough <houghpt@y...> wrote:
> > Combat has of late been getting a little dull in my
> > group. I think
> > there are seveal problems, and I will try and
> > explain each of them in
> > turn.
> >
> > 1) It takes forever!
> > I have posted about this many times on many boards.
> > Some of you seem
> > to run very efficient combats, mine seem to take
> > hours. How do your
> > combats move so quickly? have you faced this
> > problem, and if so,
> > what techniques do you use to combat it (pardon the
> > pun).
>
> I always throw 3d10 for each attacking NPC; two of
> them are my percentile dice, the other is damage done
> in case of a hit (or successful cast). The third D10
> can also be used to determine spell Duration, in the
> event of a non-combative spell.
>
> Second - I know the combat system backwards and
> forwards. I do not have time during a combat session
> to be flipping pages. Between games, I read up.
>
> Third - Folks who tend to talk off-topic during a
> combat session also tend to lose their turn (next!).
>
> Fourth - I prefer that players tell what their
> character is going to do and - if it involves moving -
> I move their figure on the Tactical Display myself, as
> I move all miniatures; this way there is minimum room
> for arguement. I start at one end of the table and go
> around to each player. My one rule - make it short and
> comprehensible!
>
> > 2) Lack of flair.
> > I used to have a great player. he would always
> > describe the action
> > he was taking in entertaining detail.... "I throw my
> > sword to the
> > ground and jump on the demons back" etc... Perhaps
> > if I did more of
> > this, my players would "join in". How do you
> > describe your combats
> > to keep them fresh? It too often goes "I swing at
> > him <roll>"
>
> Many of my players prefer vocal taunts - much like the
> ones between Eroll Flynn and Basil Rathebone in The
> Adventures of Robin Hood (1938).
>
> RH: Did I upset your plans?
> SGG: You've come to Nottingham once too often!
> RH: After this day is done, my friend, there'll be no
> need for me to come again!
>
> You should encourage descriptions in the way you
> described, with perhaps a 10 xp bonus per combat for
> those who showed exceptional roleplaying.
>
> > 3) Gauging the opposition.
> > I am too afraid to kill my PCs, an that is my own
> > fault. So the
> > fights are often too easy. Do you guys have any
> > quick formulas to
> > measuring the qulity of a combat?
>
> When its a band of orcs, gnolls, pirates, etc., I try
> to match the party in ability and weaponry if not
> Damage Point for Damage Point. If it's a monster,
> well, sometimes, they win, sometimes they lose a party
> member or two. But whatever the critter, study that
> critter carefully, taking into account all of its
> abilities and strategems, and plan accordingly! For
> example, ever tried to fight a Gryphon (3-hex monster
> that can withdraw freely) while it was flying,
> swooping down at its leisure and making in-and-out
> attacks? Nobody gets a rear shot on him, that's for
> sure.
>
> Before the game, set up a mock Tactical Display for a
> combat you know will occur and play both sides; you'd
> be amazed what you find that needs modification.
>
> > 4) The players know a lot.
> > They have done extensive calculations to determine
> > the best way for
> > them to approach combat. SO it tends to be more
> > mathmateics than
> > entertainment.
>
> Exactly how much time do you allow between the time
> the players encounter the opposition and the time
> combat begins? If one of your players is a Military
> Scientest, the most they could have to plan between
> each round is 120 seconds (2 minutes). Probably it's a
> lot less.
>
> As a GM, you should at the very least know far more
> about every participating character in your group than
> your players should ever know about what's coming
> next. Measure their strengths and weaknesses, and
> again, plan accordingly! Sure the mighty dwarf has a
> giant club, but his TMR sucks! Sure the nimble elf can
> haul ass across a battlefield, but so what?
>
> Also, if you are one of those unfortunate GMs who have
> the displeasure of having a giant character loose in
> your game, just remember who the biggest target is.
> It'd be a shame if he just happened down a narrow
> mountain pass flanked on both sides by high cliffs
> which concealed a number of crack archers under cover
> (that also adds to their defense). It would also be a
> shame if these archers all had modified AG of 26 or
> higher so that they could prep and fire every Pulse...
>
> You are flustered, but not down and out!
>
> > Any thoughts/emotions/idea/accusations/denials on
> > any of these topics?
> >
> > John
>
> Fortitude!
>
> - Pat Hough
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--- In dq-rules@yahoogroups.com, "J. K. Hoffman" <ryumaou@s...> wrote:
> Hey, does anyone have any suggestions for conversion between the
D&D
> Third Edition and DragonQuest? I seem to recall that someone had
> guidelines for conversion between DQ and either AD&D or D&D Second
> Edition, but I'm not even sure about that!
> Any links or suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
> --
> "What is impossible today may suddenly become possible tomorrow."
> - Thomas Merton

> I have the 3rd edition of D&D, but i have not had a chance to run a
> campaign yet.
>
> I will make one obvious suggestion, however.
> using a D20 is just s implifed version of percentile dice. I am over
> simplfying, but converting die rolls to DQ would be pretty easy if
> you take this approach. Multiply the ranges by 5 (when converting TO
> DQ), and see if this gets you anywahere. Certainly easier than
> converting from, say, GURPS.
>
> Hope this helps in some small way.
>
> John

> Hi gang,
>
> I am looking for electronic versions of some of the published DQ
> adventures. Primarily The House of Kurin. THough I am interested

> anything you have.
>
> Also, I have electronic verisons of three adventures:
> Sethotep
> Beauty is But Skin Deep
> Jack of all trades
>
> They are all converted as TIFFS, and text files. Did any of you do
> the conversion? if so email me, and tell me who you are.
>
> John

> Hello,
>
> I still run a DQ version 1 campaign on the rare occasions when
> the old group gets together. I stick with DQ because I know the
> rules cold, have added my own variations, and out of affection for
> old times and the glory of SPI. But I was wondering if any of you
> have kept up with the development of RPGs over the last 20
> years, and still think that DQ, while it was once an infinite
> improvement over AD&D for flexibility, offers real advantages over
> systems like GURPS (I also hear that the new WOTC D&D is
> quite good). Or do you all still play DQ for the same reasons I
> do?
> jcf
>
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>I still run a DQ version 1 campaign on the rare occasions when
>the old group gets together. I stick with DQ because I know the
>rules cold, have added my own variations, and out of affection for
>old times and the glory of SPI. But I was wondering if any of you
>have kept up with the development of RPGs over the last 20
>years, and still think that DQ, while it was once an infinite
>improvement over AD&D for flexibility, offers real advantages over
>systems like GURPS (I also hear that the new WOTC D&D is
>quite good). Or do you all still play DQ for the same reasons I
>do?

> Hello,
>
> I still run a DQ version 1 campaign on the rare
> occasions when
> the old group gets together. I stick with DQ because
> I know the
> rules cold, have added my own variations, and out of
> affection for
> old times and the glory of SPI. But I was wondering
> if any of you
> have kept up with the development of RPGs over the
> last 20
> years, and still think that DQ, while it was once an
> infinite
> improvement over AD&D for flexibility, offers real
> advantages over
> systems like GURPS (I also hear that the new WOTC
> D&D is
> quite good). Or do you all still play DQ for the
> same reasons I
> do?
> jcf
>
>

> Hello,
>
> I still run a DQ version 1 campaign on the rare occasions when
> the old group gets together. I stick with DQ because I know the
> rules cold, have added my own variations, and out of affection for
> old times and the glory of SPI. But I was wondering if any of you
> have kept up with the development of RPGs over the last 20
> years, and still think that DQ, while it was once an infinite
> improvement over AD&D for flexibility, offers real advantages over
> systems like GURPS (I also hear that the new WOTC D&D is
> quite good). Or do you all still play DQ for the same reasons I
> do?
> jcf

>I still run a DQ version 1 campaign on the rare occasions when
>the old group gets together. I stick with DQ because I know the
>rules cold, have added my own variations, and out of affection for
>old times and the glory of SPI. But I was wondering if any of you
>have kept up with the development of RPGs over the last 20
>years, and still think that DQ, while it was once an infinite
>improvement over AD&D for flexibility, offers real advantages over
>systems like GURPS (I also hear that the new WOTC D&D is
>quite good). Or do you all still play DQ for the same reasons I
>do?

I play DQ still, as well as 3E, Gurps and the new Lord of the Rings game. Each one has strengths and weaknesses which could give it an advantage over the others, and although I won't say which I prefer, I  think you have the makings of a decent game if you use 3E.

 Bruce Probst <bprobst@netspace.net.au> wrote:

Well, I recently ran a DQ campaign that lasted for about a year or so.  It
was OK but it bogged down because we were finding issues with the magic
system (some spells, it developed, were too powerful as they are described,
especially when they have a few ranks in them; also, spell investments were
getting out of hand); also, characters were dying too often (this is not
really a fault with DQ, per se, rather the way we play emphasises combat).

The magic issues could be revised and refined with playtesting (and indeed a
number of them were) but the whole thing necessitated a "stop and rethink".

We've cast around looking at other games, and so far we've all been mighty
impressed with 3rd Ed D&D.  I never much liked previous editions for a
variety of reasons, but most of the things I disliked about the system have
been fixed in 3E.  It really seems to be a nice, straight-forward fantasy
system now, considerably more flexible than it used to be and the internal
systems have been reworked to be more logical (which contributes to its
flexibility).  The addition of a real skill system (rather than the vague
"proficiencies" of previous editions), the addition of the "feat" system and
the concept of an easier multi-class path make for the possibilities of
diverse character types that never were a previous aspect of D&D.  And, you
can't knock the support and expansion network.

I'll always love DQ and I do think it was the best "generic" FRPG system for
many many years, but I'm coming to the conclusion that the make overs it
needs to remain "top of the heap" require more effort than I'm currently
prepared to invest.

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Hey, everyone.

I seek your help. I would like to introduce to you Mr. Mark Bagnall, a fellow DragonQuest player who got himself an Internet account not too long ago. Could someone please email him and tell him how to join this newsgroup? I would appreciate it.

His email is:

scifimage01@yahoo.com

Thanks

Pat Hough

--- In dq-rules@yahoogroups.com, William Hough <houghpt@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey, everyone.
> I seek your help. I would like to introduce to you Mr. Mark
Bagnall, a fellow DragonQuest player who got himself an Internet
account not too long ago. Could someone please email him and tell him
how to join this newsgroup? I would appreciate it.
> His email is:
> scifimage01@y...
> Thanks
> Pat Hough
>
>
>
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> --- In dq-rules@yahoogroups.com, William Hough
> wrote:
> >

> account not too long ago. Could someone please
> email him and tell him
> how to join this newsgroup? I would appreciate

>I don't have my books handy, and I was trying to

>item, so I hope someone out there can help.
>
>What exactly is the penalty for using a weapon if the

>does not meet the Physical Strength and/or Manual

>requirements? If I recall correctly you only get to

>chance of the weapon and no rank bonus's (or is it

>ranked in the weapon).
>
>Anyone remember?
>
>
>
>
>Jason Winter
>Alarian@harbornet.net
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Hi Jason!

[20.2] A person cannot gain Rank in a weapon for which he has neither the minimum required Physical Strength and/or Manual Dexterity requirements listed for that weapon (my condensed version from the official rules).

He can only use such a weapon at its base chance. This means he cannot add his Manual Dexterity to the base chance, since that is not allowed until Rank 0. Also:

For each point of PS below the minimum required stat, he does one less point of damage below the listed damage for the weapon.

For each point of MD below the minimum required stat, the Base Chance is reduced by 5%.

I referenced the 3rd Edition rules. Hope this helps.

Pat Hough

 Jason Winter <Alarian@harbornet.net> wrote:

I don't have my books handy, and I was trying to remember a weapons related
item, so I hope someone out there can help.

What exactly is the penalty for using a weapon if the character in question
does not meet the Physical Strength and/or Manual Dexterity
requirements?  If I recall correctly you only get to use the base strike
chance of the weapon and no rank bonus's (or is it you can't even get
ranked in the weapon).

Anyone remember?




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> What exactly is the penalty for using a weapon if the character in question
> does not meet the Physical Strength and/or Manual Dexterity
> requirements? If I recall correctly you only get to use the base strike
> chance of the weapon and no rank bonus's (or is it you can't even get
> ranked in the weapon).

I think part of any game system is a certain amount of storytelling. Games like GURPS and even to a degree 3rd Ed. D&D, reduce the game system much more to merely mechanics.

I would much rather wield a Flame Tongue than a +1 longsword with Keen, Flaming, and Flaming Burst.

DQ somehow has a different FEEL to it. Characters tend to be characters rather than just a sum of their stats and equipment.

Hmm, It's also the game that I have had the most fun dieing in :)

John F. Rauchert

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From: manx2600 <johncfranklin@hotmail.com> [mailto:johncfranklin@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:34 AM
To: dq-rules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dq-rules] DQ and newer systems

Thanks everybody who replied to my query about how DQ has
held up over the years (sorry for the late reply but ive been
travelling a bit).
I was particularly surprised by the near unanimous negative
reactions to GURPS--which tallied exactly with my own (I thought
it was better regarded by others). I played Fantasy Trip a bunch
when it came out and liked it a lot, especially for its bloodiness.
But when I picked up GURPS and read through the rules, and
even tried running it a bit, I couldnt help being annoyed by how
perfectly the modularity had been worked out. A bit like going to a
second hand bookstore like Powells in Portland Oregon, and the
store knows its stock and the market so well you dont have a
prayer of finding a bargain.
Im also glad to hear that, generally, lots of people think DQ is still
as good as I remember. The very fact that it needs customization
by each referee makes it good, because everyone ends up with
what feels like their own unique gaming world. And yes, the
atmosphere is definitely there, especially in the magic system.
shame about how bad the art was though.
cheers, jcf

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Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: [dq-rules] DQ and newer systems


> Thanks everybody who replied to my query about how DQ has
> held up over the years (sorry for the late reply but ive been
> travelling a bit).
> I was particularly surprised by the near unanimous negative
> reactions to GURPS--which tallied exactly with my own (I thought
> it was better regarded by others). I played Fantasy Trip a bunch
> when it came out and liked it a lot, especially for its bloodiness.
> But when I picked up GURPS and read through the rules, and
> even tried running it a bit, I couldnt help being annoyed by how
> perfectly the modularity had been worked out. A bit like going to a
> second hand bookstore like Powells in Portland Oregon, and the
> store knows its stock and the market so well you dont have a
> prayer of finding a bargain.
> Im also glad to hear that, generally, lots of people think DQ is still
> as good as I remember. The very fact that it needs customization
> by each referee makes it good, because everyone ends up with
> what feels like their own unique gaming world. And yes, the
> atmosphere is definitely there, especially in the magic system.
> shame about how bad the art was though.
> cheers, jcf
>
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> Thanks everybody who replied to my query about how DQ has
> held up over the years (sorry for the late reply but ive been
> travelling a bit).
> I was particularly surprised by the near unanimous negative
> reactions to GURPS--which tallied exactly with my own (I thought
> it was better regarded by others). I played Fantasy Trip a bunch
> when it came out and liked it a lot, especially for its bloodiness.
> But when I picked up GURPS and read through the rules, and
> even tried running it a bit, I couldnt help being annoyed by how
> perfectly the modularity had been worked out. A bit like going to a
> second hand bookstore like Powells in Portland Oregon, and the
> store knows its stock and the market so well you dont have a
> prayer of finding a bargain.
> Im also glad to hear that, generally, lots of people think DQ is

> as good as I remember. The very fact that it needs customization
> by each referee makes it good, because everyone ends up with
> what feels like their own unique gaming world. And yes, the
> atmosphere is definitely there, especially in the magic system.
> shame about how bad the art was though.
> cheers, jcf

> I was just looking through my collection today and it got me to
> thinking. How many versions of DQ were printed? I have the following:
>
> 1st Edition boxed set with the 3 booklets.
>
> 2nd Edition Master Boxed set.
>
> The 2nd edition hard cover book

>
> There was a 2nd edition softcover as well.
>

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> >
> > There was a 2nd edition softcover as well.
> >
>
> Doesn't the Bantam 2nd SC have some slight editing changes from the HC?
> I've read or heard that mentioned somewhere, but I can't remember the
> exact circumstances. Nothing major, as far as changes go, but just some
> slight ones.
>
> Cheers,
> Ron
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> of Black Magic, as well
> as some other minor changes. It also added the
> College of Rune Magic and
> another magic college as well, but at the moment,
> the name escapes me.
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> > >
> > > There was a 2nd edition softcover as well.
> > >
> >
> > Doesn't the Bantam 2nd SC have some slight editing
> changes from the HC?
> > I've read or heard that mentioned somewhere, but I
> can't remember the
> > exact circumstances. Nothing major, as far as
> changes go, but just some
> > slight ones.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ron
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>Ron, between the Bantam hardcover 2nd edition and the
>softcover 2nd Edition that was included with the
>Master Set, the chance to recover from being Stunned
>was changed from Willpower plus remaining Fatigue to
>(2xWP)+ remaining Fatigue.

>Doesn't the Bantam 2nd SC have some slight editing changes from the HC?
>I've read or heard that mentioned somewhere, but I can't remember the
>exact circumstances. Nothing major, as far as changes go, but just some
>slight ones.

--- In dq-rules@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Probst <bprobst@n...> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:14:41 -0500, "Copley, Ron"
> <rcopley@h...> wrote:
>
> >Doesn't the Bantam 2nd SC have some slight editing changes from
the HC?
> >I've read or heard that mentioned somewhere, but I can't remember
the
> >exact circumstances. Nothing major, as far as changes go, but just
some
> >slight ones.
>
> More than "slight". Numerous rules sections (particularly in
Character
> Generation and Combat) were tweaked and added to. The Bantam
edition would
> be more accurately labelled as "Version 2.1", but you can't tell
that from
> the cover, which is identical (apart from the Bantam logo) to the
SPI
> edition.
>
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>
>
> Has anyone had fun (short-lived or not) playing a Rune
> Mage? What are they like? Are they unbalancing to a
> campaign? Just recently rolled up a BUC (back-up
> character) and am thinking about trying this path.
>
> Pat
>
> --- Al Lowe <grandpoobah@h...> wrote:
> > TSR produced a 3rd Edition that tookout the college
> > of Black Magic, as well
> > as some other minor changes. It also added the
> > College of Rune Magic and
> > another magic college as well, but at the moment,
> > the name escapes me.
> >
> > Al Lowe - ICQ 16532469
> > http://www.harnmaster.com
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Copley, Ron" <rcopley@h...>
> > To: <dq-rules@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: [dq-rules] How many Versions of DQ were
> > there?
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > There was a 2nd edition softcover as well.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Doesn't the Bantam 2nd SC have some slight editing
> > changes from the HC?
> > > I've read or heard that mentioned somewhere, but I
> > can't remember the
> > > exact circumstances. Nothing major, as far as
> > changes go, but just some
> > > slight ones.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ron
> > >
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