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Group: dqn-list Message: 353 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/22/1999
Subject: Updated and corrected Link issue
Group: dqn-list Message: 354 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Thalia
Group: dqn-list Message: 355 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Judges Guild DQ adventures
Group: dqn-list Message: 356 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Group: dqn-list Message: 357 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: Thalia
Group: dqn-list Message: 358 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Group: dqn-list Message: 359 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Group: dqn-list Message: 360 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Group: dqn-list Message: 361 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: Thalia
Group: dqn-list Message: 362 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Group: dqn-list Message: 363 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: Thalia
Group: dqn-list Message: 364 From: Thomas Forlenza Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: Updated and corrected Link issue
Group: dqn-list Message: 365 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: submissions to DQN
Group: dqn-list Message: 366 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 367 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: Thalia (DQ font)
Group: dqn-list Message: 368 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 369 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 370 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: Updated and corrected Link issue
Group: dqn-list Message: 371 From: Paul Pishnak Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 372 From: Keith Smith Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 373 From: D. Cameron King Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: Judges Guild DQ adventures
Group: dqn-list Message: 374 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: DQPA Input and New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Group: dqn-list Message: 375 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 376 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 377 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Adventure Archive Editorial Board
Group: dqn-list Message: 378 From: Ian Bacon Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: Adventure Archive Editorial Board - Yes
Group: dqn-list Message: 379 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: The Water Works
Group: dqn-list Message: 380 From: Paul Pishnak Date: 7/26/1999
Subject: Re: The Water Works
Group: dqn-list Message: 381 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/26/1999
Subject: Re: The Water Works
Group: dqn-list Message: 382 From: mortdemuerte@yahoo.com Date: 7/26/1999
Subject: Re: The Water Works
Group: dqn-list Message: 383 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/26/1999
Subject: Re: The Water Works
Group: dqn-list Message: 384 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/26/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 385 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/29/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 386 From: John Carcutt Date: 7/29/1999
Subject: File conversion help for the DQ community
Group: dqn-list Message: 387 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/29/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 388 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/29/1999
Subject: Re: DQ (Adventure) Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 389 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/30/1999
Subject: Re: DQ (Adventure) Archive
Group: dqn-list Message: 390 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/30/1999
Subject: UPDATE: DQArchive
Group: dqn-list Message: 391 From: Bishop Carlmund Date: 7/31/1999
Subject: DQ at GENCON (from AUSTRALIA)
Group: dqn-list Message: 392 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/31/1999
Subject: Re: DQ at GENCON (from AUSTRALIA)
Group: dqn-list Message: 393 From: John M. Kahane Date: 8/1/1999
Subject: Re: UPDATE: DQArchive
Group: dqn-list Message: 394 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 8/1/1999
Subject: Links MIRROR
Group: dqn-list Message: 395 From: ssclark@icx.net Date: 8/7/1999
Subject: DQ PBEM campaign is going well
Group: dqn-list Message: 396 From: ssclark@icx.net Date: 8/7/1999
Subject: New DQ stuff on my web page
Group: dqn-list Message: 397 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 8/8/1999
Subject: Character Sheet extaordinaire
Group: dqn-list Message: 398 From: Chris Short Date: 8/8/1999
Subject: Re: DQ PBEM campaign is going well
Group: dqn-list Message: 399 From: ssclark@icx.net Date: 8/12/1999
Subject: Re: DQ PBEM campaign is going well
Group: dqn-list Message: 400 From: john@carcutt.com Date: 8/12/1999
Subject: DQPA link page updated
Group: dqn-list Message: 401 From: john@carcutt.com Date: 8/20/1999
Subject: DQPA Membership Database
Group: dqn-list Message: 402 From: rnegron@mindspring.com Date: 9/1/1999
Subject: Looking for players in Manhattan



Group: dqn-list Message: 353 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/22/1999
Subject: Updated and corrected Link issue
OK so I'm lazy, but I finally got around to correcting the problem with the
links on my webpage. It was a couple months ago when someone was
complaining that all my links opened up the appropriate pages within my
webpages frames, and that it was quite tedious to the average user. I don't
even like it, so....I finally got around to fixing this little problem. Now
all my links will open up the appropriate webpages into their very own
browser window. Hope this makes at least one person happy. I may even
someday put some new links on my page, like DQWG and DQPA, but hey I have
real work to do to. Have fun.

Todd Schreiber
http://www.platinumcrown.com/DQ/


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Group: dqn-list Message: 354 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Thalia
Can anyone help me find Thalia font for the Mac? I would be so appreciative :)
--Geoff Berman

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Group: dqn-list Message: 355 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Judges Guild DQ adventures
Hi All, just an FYI. Although I have mixed feelings about them :) Quincey
over at Titan Games (Titangames.com) had all 3 of the JG adventures for $5
ea. shrinkwrapped, don't know if he still does but give him a holler :)
--Geoff Berman

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Group: dqn-list Message: 356 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
My input for what it's worth, is that I really don't like adventures where
all the mosters are grouped in the back, anything that makes me flip back and
forth while running is a bad idea :) although having a full write-up in back
with a short write-up in the adventure where the monster is, would be the
best of both worlds.
--Geoff Berman

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Group: dqn-list Message: 357 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: Thalia
<54126630.24c9a37-@aol.com> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=354
> Can anyone help me find Thalia font for the Mac? I would be so
appreciative :)
> --Geoff Berman
>

I have a link around here somewhere for a mac TrueType version of Thalia

but a type1 version is available at

www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/system.extensions/font/type1/

or

mirror.apple.com/Mirrors/mac.archive.umich.edu/system.extensions/font/t
ype1/

This is the format information
/mac/system.extensions/font/type1/thalia.cpt.hqx 23 3/17/91
BinHex4.0,Compact1.51 Size: 24 Upper/lower case thick Old English style
letters.

Hope this helps I will try to find that other site when I get home
tonight.

John F. Rauchert, Co-Moderator
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Group: dqn-list Message: 358 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Hullo, JohnR,

>On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:18:42 -0600, John Rauchert wrote:
>This sounds like a project that DQPA would be willing to support.

Yep, it is a good idea to do that, and the
adventures/scenarios/whatever could all be archived at the DQPA home
download files area.
But I think it's important to remember here that it would be nice to
get material from non-DQPA members as well, and as such, places like
the DQN and all serve a purpose here, too.

>If a group of us can come with an adventure writing guide then at least we know the material will be consistent in format.

Yeah, but modules for DQ can be awfully long when they're in
the consistent, DQ format (like all of the published ones were).
The question also comes up what format do you put them in, with maps
and all the other material that would go along with these? .PDF is a
good format for the text and maps, but not everyone can use .PDF and
not everyone can create documents or convert documents to .PDF, just
as an example.

... Windows95 is plug 'n play. OS/2 is install and work!

JohnK
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Group: dqn-list Message: 359 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/23/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
<199907232115.raa2769-@deathstar.comnet.ca> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=358

Hullo JohnK

> Yep, it is a good idea to do that, and the
> adventures/scenarios/whatever could all be archived at the DQPA home
> download files area.
> But I think it's important to remember here that it would be nice to
> get material from non-DQPA members as well, and as such, places like
> the DQN and all serve a purpose here, too.

From the very beginning, it was never the intention of the DQPA to compete
with DragonQuest Activities already occurring on the Net but to seek ways to
help and enhance those efforts (I co-moderate the DQN-list and play in
Rodger's fledgling online campaign).

Rodger Thorm has done a great job of keeping the interest in DragonQuest alive
on the Internet and he deserves that credit. DQPA would never step in one day
and produce our own version of the DragonQuest Newsletter in direct
competition to his publication or even his DQN-List. DQPA is more than happy
to point users to those existing services rather than reinventing the wheel.

On the other hand, if Rodger decided to call it quits one day the DQPA would
like to be in a position to be able enter into negotiations with Rodger (if
it made sense) to take over the newsletter and continue the tradition of
excellence that he represents.

If module development becomes a big storage concern and individuals on the net
find they cannot resource the storage of them we would like think that they
could approach us (the DQPA) as a non-profit players advocacy group and we
would find storage space for these resources.

I don't think that we would ever discourage non-members from contributing to
the positive growth of the DragonQuest Game.

We will also attempt to remain a free Association as long as we can (or at
least until we can give back equal value for the dollar amount of a
membership). I have personally committed to maintaining the Domain Name for
DQPA as long as is necessary. Just as a point of interest, the membership of
DQPA and the membership of the DQN-list is in most cases the same [true not
100% the same].


> Yeah, but modules for DQ can be awfully long when they're in
> the consistent, DQ format (like all of the published ones were).
> The question also comes up what format do you put them in, with maps
> and all the other material that would go along with these? .PDF is a
> good format for the text and maps, but not everyone can use .PDF and
> not everyone can create documents or convert documents to .PDF, just
> as an example.


That is where DQPA potentially comes in. As an association we can start a
project run by interested members tasked to develop guidelines for module
development building off of work that has already taken place in the past.

I would assume that one of the recommendations to come out of such a group
would be the file format that such documents should be converted into or
stored in. PDF is, of course, an appealing format because the reader is
supported on many platforms (Macintosh, Windows, UNIX, OS/2).

If you have the full Acrobat Package (as I do) you are able to create PDFs out
of just about anything that can be printed.

As has been pointed out, not everyone has access to those types of resources.
Again here is where DQPA can play a role. A member or members who do have
access to these resources can as part of their association contribution
volunteer time to converting module documents into PDF documents (if that is
the preferred format) for posting to the web site.


John F. Rauchert, Acting President
DragonQuest Players Association
john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca

from "OS/2 Programmer's Guide" (forward by Bill Gates):
"I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system,
and possibly program, of all time. As the successor to DOS, which has
over 10,000,000 systems in use, it creates incredible opportunities for
everyone involved with PCs."




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Group: dqn-list Message: 360 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
Again, I don't want to reinvent the wheel, but I have server space, and I'll
put anything at all that is DQ and/or FRP related on my server. All are
welcome.


>
>> Yep, it is a good idea to do that, and the
>> adventures/scenarios/whatever could all be archived at the DQPA home
>> download files area.
>> But I think it's important to remember here that it would be nice to
>> get material from non-DQPA members as well, and as such, places like
>> the DQN and all serve a purpose here, too.
>
>>From the very beginning, it was never the intention of the DQPA to compete
>with DragonQuest Activities already occurring on the Net but to seek ways
to
>help and enhance those efforts (I co-moderate the DQN-list and play in
>Rodger's fledgling online campaign).
>
>Rodger Thorm has done a great job of keeping the interest in DragonQuest
alive
>on the Internet and he deserves that credit. DQPA would never step in one
day
>and produce our own version of the DragonQuest Newsletter in direct
>competition to his publication or even his DQN-List. DQPA is more than
happy
>to point users to those existing services rather than reinventing the
wheel.
>
>On the other hand, if Rodger decided to call it quits one day the DQPA
would
>like to be in a position to be able enter into negotiations with Rodger
(if
>it made sense) to take over the newsletter and continue the tradition of
>excellence that he represents.
>
>If module development becomes a big storage concern and individuals on the
net
>find they cannot resource the storage of them we would like think that they
>could approach us (the DQPA) as a non-profit players advocacy group and we
>would find storage space for these resources.
>
>I don't think that we would ever discourage non-members from contributing
to
>the positive growth of the DragonQuest Game.
>
>We will also attempt to remain a free Association as long as we can (or at
>least until we can give back equal value for the dollar amount of a
>membership). I have personally committed to maintaining the Domain Name
for
>DQPA as long as is necessary. Just as a point of interest, the membership
of
>DQPA and the membership of the DQN-list is in most cases the same [true not
>100% the same].
>
>
>> Yeah, but modules for DQ can be awfully long when they're in
>> the consistent, DQ format (like all of the published ones were).
>> The question also comes up what format do you put them in, with maps
>> and all the other material that would go along with these? .PDF is a
>> good format for the text and maps, but not everyone can use .PDF and
>> not everyone can create documents or convert documents to .PDF, just
>> as an example.
>
>
>That is where DQPA potentially comes in. As an association we can start a
>project run by interested members tasked to develop guidelines for module
>development building off of work that has already taken place in the past.
>
>I would assume that one of the recommendations to come out of such a group
>would be the file format that such documents should be converted into or
>stored in. PDF is, of course, an appealing format because the reader is
>supported on many platforms (Macintosh, Windows, UNIX, OS/2).
>
>If you have the full Acrobat Package (as I do) you are able to create PDFs
out
>of just about anything that can be printed.
>
>As has been pointed out, not everyone has access to those types of
resources.
>Again here is where DQPA can play a role. A member or members who do have
>access to these resources can as part of their association contribution
>volunteer time to converting module documents into PDF documents (if that
is
>the preferred format) for posting to the web site.
>
>
>John F. Rauchert, Acting President
>DragonQuest Players Association
>john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca
>
>from "OS/2 Programmer's Guide" (forward by Bill Gates):
>"I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system,
>and possibly program, of all time. As the successor to DOS, which has
>over 10,000,000 systems in use, it creates incredible opportunities for
>everyone involved with PCs."
>
>
>
>
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Group: dqn-list Message: 361 From: GBerman@aol.com Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: Thalia
In a message dated 7/23/99 7:20:24 AM, john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca writes:

<< www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/system.extensions/font/type1/ >>

Thamks for the page, if you could look to see if you could find that truetype
I would be appreciative :)
--Geoff

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Group: dqn-list Message: 362 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
<004701bed573$4e4124c0$0201017-@saturn.fcc.net> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=360
> Again, I don't want to reinvent the wheel, but I have server space,
and I'll
> put anything at all that is DQ and/or FRP related on my server. All
are
> welcome.

Which somewhat illustrates my point, we all have web space or ftp space
available that we are willing to share but there is no centralized
coordination of this effort. On Eric's page is the Treasure of Socantri
Adventure, on Omaq's is Alusia maps, and on Todd's page is a set of
Two-Handed Fighting rules, so how can we make certain that material
remains in the collective DQ community memory?

One of the things discussed on the DQWG list (DragonQuest Webmasters
Guild, part of DQPA) was setting up mirrored archives of DQ information
so that we can be assured that that information will continue to be
available if one of our systems suddenly disappears (for whatever
reason).

John F. Rauchert, Acting President
DragonQuest Players Association


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Group: dqn-list Message: 363 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: Thalia
<5bba189b.24ca785-@aol.com> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=361
>
> In a message dated 7/23/99 7:20:24 AM, john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca
writes:
>
> << www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/system.extensions/font/type1/ >>
>
> Thamks for the page, if you could look to see if you could find that
truetype
> I would be appreciative :)
> --Geoff
>

Here you go, I was too wiped last night to even turn on my computer
last night.

Fortunately. I had enough sense to bookmark the site

http://cgi.din.or.jp/~zyoshi/font_M/t1.html

It has both the Truetype and the Type1 version available for download

compression and archiving for both is Binhex (hqx) and Stuffit (sit).

John F. Rauchert, Acting President
DragonQuest Players Association
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Group: dqn-list Message: 364 From: Thomas Forlenza Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: Updated and corrected Link issue
Wait! I don't understand something.
You mean to tell me that you made all your links open up in a seperate
window because someone doesn't know how to use their browser.

I know with netscape that right clicking on a link gives you the choice
to open up the link in a seperate window. I'm sure explorer has a
similar feature.

You man, are a very accomadating person. Can you do something for me
too.
Make it so that all I have to do is look at the link and it will open up
that link in a seperate window on my other computer. Also make that
link have the same color for the foreground as the background. I like
to guess what the words say.

Lesson of the day. To make a link open up in a seperate window from
netscape. Right click on the link and choose the choice that say's
"Open link in new window".

If you don't have netscape then get it (it doesn't crash like
explorer). Or learn how to do it from explorer.

If you can't do the above, then throw your computer out the window as
you have now business using one.

By the way, you got some cool pages there. I particularly enjoyed the
poems by the unnamed bard.


"Todd E. Schreiber" wrote:
>
> OK so I'm lazy, but I finally got around to correcting the problem with the
> links on my webpage. It was a couple months ago when someone was
> complaining that all my links opened up the appropriate pages within my
> webpages frames, and that it was quite tedious to the average user. I don't
> even like it, so....I finally got around to fixing this little problem. Now
> all my links will open up the appropriate webpages into their very own
> browser window. Hope this makes at least one person happy. I may even
> someday put some new links on my page, like DQWG and DQPA, but hey I have
> real work to do to. Have fun.
>
> Todd Schreiber
> http://www.platinumcrown.com/DQ/
>
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Group: dqn-list Message: 365 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: submissions to DQN
Being fairly informal and needing all the submissions we can get,
there isn't much at all to submitting an article for the DragonQuest
Newsletter. We are in the process of migrating the Newsletter from
using batch email over to using another eGroups area to serve the
Newsletter, so submissions can be sent to the Editor at either of
the following addresses, and they will end up in the same place:

dqn@ntsource.com

DQNewsletter-owner@eGroups.com

While we will work with just about any file that arrives, it is
probably best to send the file as plain text. There have been
compatability problems between different versions of Word (which,
it seems, is what most people use, in one flavor or another) and
between PC and Mac platforms. Sending the file as both a formatted
Word document, and then just as a plaintext file would be ideal.
But, whatever format you use, we will try to work with it, and will
contact you if there are problems. Thanks for your continued
interest and support.

Rodger Thorm
DragonQuest Newsletter Editor

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> Hi how do I submit to DQ newsletter? :)
> --Geoff Berman
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Group: dqn-list Message: 366 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: DQ Adventure Archive
There has been some recent discussion here about setting up an
Archive of DragonQuest Adventures. I have long been in favor of
something like this, and, if there will be submissions forthcoming,
I will be happy to organize them and make them available through
the DQN-list website. We have 20 megabytes of storage space given
to us from eGroups, and it only seems right to use this space for
archives of DragonQuest materials. (I would also like to re-create
the old 'Drache' archive as best as we are able. Any materials you
have from the old FTP site can be sent to me in care of the 'Drache
Recovery Project,' and I will make those available, as well.)

I think that two standards should be used for archived DragonQuest
adventures. The Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) format is a cross-platform
format which is supported on most OSes. PDF also allows the designer
to set the format, include images (maps, etc.), use specific fonts
(such as Thalia (the DragonQuest font) now that we have located and
identified it), and otherwise control the overall appearance of the
document. The second standard I think we should use is plain text.
The DragonQuest Newsletter has been produced in plain text in order
to be maximally accessible, and items in the old 'Drache' archive
were similarly formatted (or unformatted, if you prefer). Simple
text (what MS Word refers to as 'Text Only with Line Breaks') is
pretty uniformly accessible. Maps and other accompanying non-text
items can be scanned and posted in .GIF or .JPG format and will be
accessible by many, as well. Ideally, adventures should be supplied
in both formats for maximum access, but either one of these formats
will be accessible and usable for 90%+ of the DragonQuest community.

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Subject: Re: Thalia (DQ font)
John--

Thanks for posting the Thalia for Macintosh info. You were going to
go
through the various PC sites and figure out which (if any) was the best
version of Thalia among those. I would like to put both sets of links
on the DQN-list web page (and maybe the DQPA wants to do likewise?) if
you wouldn't mind listing that one again?

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Group: dqn-list Message: 368 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/24/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
My suggestion regarding PDF, is that although it is very good, the Acrobat
software to create PDF files isn't cheap, and most people don't possess it.
We should use something more universally available, like text or rtf (rich
text files) with bmps, gifs, or jpgs for the graphics. Everyone who owns a
computer has some degree of software that can create these formats. If a
member of the DQPA would like to convert them to PDF and post the adventures
in PDF format, that would be great also, but lets not push leave anyone out.
We can't afford to do that given our rather small group.



>There has been some recent discussion here about setting up an
>Archive of DragonQuest Adventures. I have long been in favor of
>something like this, and, if there will be submissions forthcoming,
>I will be happy to organize them and make them available through
>the DQN-list website. We have 20 megabytes of storage space given
>to us from eGroups, and it only seems right to use this space for
>archives of DragonQuest materials. (I would also like to re-create
>the old 'Drache' archive as best as we are able. Any materials you
>have from the old FTP site can be sent to me in care of the 'Drache
>Recovery Project,' and I will make those available, as well.)
>
>I think that two standards should be used for archived DragonQuest
>adventures. The Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) format is a cross-platform
>format which is supported on most OSes. PDF also allows the designer
>to set the format, include images (maps, etc.), use specific fonts
>(such as Thalia (the DragonQuest font) now that we have located and
>identified it), and otherwise control the overall appearance of the
>document. The second standard I think we should use is plain text.
>The DragonQuest Newsletter has been produced in plain text in order
>to be maximally accessible, and items in the old 'Drache' archive
>were similarly formatted (or unformatted, if you prefer). Simple
>text (what MS Word refers to as 'Text Only with Line Breaks') is
>pretty uniformly accessible. Maps and other accompanying non-text
>items can be scanned and posted in .GIF or .JPG format and will be
>accessible by many, as well. Ideally, adventures should be supplied
>in both formats for maximum access, but either one of these formats
>will be accessible and usable for 90%+ of the DragonQuest community.
>
>Rodger Thorm
>DQN-list Moderator
>
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Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
<7ncjl4$ft5-@egroups.com> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=366
> I would also like to re-create
> the old 'Drache' archive as best as we are able. Any materials you
> have from the old FTP site can be sent to me in care of the 'Drache
> Recovery Project,' and I will make those available, as well.
>

I would also like to see some work done to duplicate this material in
multiple places so that we don't have ever have a "Drache Recovery
Project" or any other type of recovery project. But this mirroring
should (must) be done in a consistent and agreed upon fashion.


>Ideally, adventures should be supplied
> in both formats for maximum access, but either one of these formats
> will be accessible and usable for 90%+ of the DragonQuest community.

I agree with both Rodger and Todd that we must balance cross platform
portability and layout esthetics. On one hand I want something that
looks good and on the other I want something that is readable on my
computer.

John F. Rauchert, Acting President
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Subject: Re: Updated and corrected Link issue
Ignore the previous post, the poster in question wrote the poems by the
unnamed bard.



>Wait! I don't understand something.
>You mean to tell me that you made all your links open up in a seperate
>window because someone doesn't know how to use their browser.
>
>I know with netscape that right clicking on a link gives you the choice
>to open up the link in a seperate window. I'm sure explorer has a
>similar feature.
>
>You man, are a very accomadating person. Can you do something for me
>too.
>Make it so that all I have to do is look at the link and it will open up
>that link in a seperate window on my other computer. Also make that
>link have the same color for the foreground as the background. I like
>to guess what the words say.
>
>Lesson of the day. To make a link open up in a seperate window from
>netscape. Right click on the link and choose the choice that say's
>"Open link in new window".
>
>If you don't have netscape then get it (it doesn't crash like
>explorer). Or learn how to do it from explorer.
>
>If you can't do the above, then throw your computer out the window as
>you have now business using one.
>
>By the way, you got some cool pages there. I particularly enjoyed the
>poems by the unnamed bard.
>
>
>"Todd E. Schreiber" wrote:
>>
>> OK so I'm lazy, but I finally got around to correcting the problem with
the
>> links on my webpage. It was a couple months ago when someone was
>> complaining that all my links opened up the appropriate pages within my
>> webpages frames, and that it was quite tedious to the average user. I
don't
>> even like it, so....I finally got around to fixing this little problem.
Now
>> all my links will open up the appropriate webpages into their very own
>> browser window. Hope this makes at least one person happy. I may even
>> someday put some new links on my page, like DQWG and DQPA, but hey I have
>> real work to do to. Have fun.
>>
>> Todd Schreiber
>> http://www.platinumcrown.com/DQ/
>>
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Group: dqn-list Message: 371 From: Paul Pishnak Date: 7/25/1999
Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
Attachments :
    I agree. I've wanted the Adobe software to create PDF files for some time, but also think it's too expensive.
    If you want to go universal why not allow HTML submissions in a zip format. I can create much more visually appealing and organized material in HTML.?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Todd E. Schreiber [SMTP:schreib@platinumcrown.com]
    Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 10:15 AM
    To: dqn-list@egroups.com
    Subject: [DQN-list] Re: DQ Adventure Archive

    My suggestion regarding PDF, is that although it is very good, the Acrobat
    software to create PDF files isn't cheap, and most people don't possess it.
    We should use something more universally available, like text or rtf (rich
    text files) with bmps, gifs, or jpgs for the graphics. Everyone who owns a
    computer has some degree of software that can create these formats. If a
    member of the DQPA would like to convert them to PDF and post the adventures
    in PDF format, that would be great also, but lets not push leave anyone out.
    We can't afford to do that given our rather small group.



    >There has been some recent discussion here about setting up an
    >Archive of DragonQuest Adventures. I have long been in favor of
    >something like this, and, if there will be submissions forthcoming,
    >I will be happy to organize them and make them available through
    >the DQN-list website. We have 20 megabytes of storage space given
    >to us from eGroups, and it only seems right to use this space for
    >archives of DragonQuest materials. (I would also like to re-create
    >the old 'Drache' archive as best as we are able. Any materials you
    >have from the old FTP site can be sent to me in care of the 'Drache
    >Recovery Project,' and I will make those available, as well.)
    >
    >I think that two standards should be used for archived DragonQuest
    >adventures. The Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) format is a cross-platform
    >format which is supported on most OSes. PDF also allows the designer
    >to set the format, include images (maps, etc.), use specific fonts
    >(such as Thalia (the DragonQuest font) now that we have located and
    >identified it), and otherwise control the overall appearance of the
    >document. The second standard I think we should use is plain text.
    >The DragonQuest Newsletter has been produced in plain text in order
    >to be maximally accessible, and items in the old 'Drache' archive
    >were similarly formatted (or unformatted, if you prefer). Simple
    >text (what MS Word refers to as 'Text Only with Line Breaks') is
    >pretty uniformly accessible. Maps and other accompanying non-text
    >items can be scanned and posted in .GIF or .JPG format and will be
    >accessible by many, as well. Ideally, adventures should be supplied
    >in both formats for maximum access, but either one of these formats
    >will be accessible and usable for 90%+ of the DragonQuest community.
    >
    >Rodger Thorm
    >DQN-list Moderator
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    Group: dqn-list Message: 372 From: Keith Smith Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
    >My suggestion regarding PDF, is that although it is very good, the Acrobat
    >software to create PDF files isn't cheap, and most people don't possess it.
    >We should use something more universally available, like text or rtf (rich
    >text files) with bmps, gifs, or jpgs for the graphics. Everyone who owns a
    >computer has some degree of software that can create these formats. If a
    >member of the DQPA would like to convert them to PDF and post the adventures
    >in PDF format, that would be great also, but lets not push leave anyone out.
    >We can't afford to do that given our rather small group.

    I agree with what you're saying re using PDFs as a standard. I've had the
    same arguments with our group when someone suggested making Word the
    standard for all documents.

    Be that as it may, I do have the PDF creator software (Acrobat 4) and have
    been using it for our Seagate Times (Guild newsletters) and DQ adventure
    scribenotes. I'm quite happy to do the same for the old DQN newsletters
    and, I too, have webspace available.

    If anyone is interested in having a look at what I've done the URL is
    http://dq.sf.org.nz/library/ It's part of what used to be the old guild
    site at stimpy.auckland.ac.nz

    >>archives of DragonQuest materials. (I would also like to re-create
    >>the old 'Drache' archive as best as we are able. Any materials you
    >>have from the old FTP site can be sent to me in care of the 'Drache
    >>Recovery Project,' and I will make those available, as well.)

    Please remind me, what was in that archive as I may have stuff stored from
    there. I was collecting material a while back to see if it would be useful
    for our campaign.

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    Group: dqn-list Message: 373 From: D. Cameron King Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Judges Guild DQ adventures
    On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 GBerman@aol.com wrote:

    > Hi All, just an FYI. Although I have mixed feelings about them :) Quincey
    > over at Titan Games (Titangames.com) had all 3 of the JG adventures for $5
    > ea. shrinkwrapped, don't know if he still does but give him a holler :)

    Just a quick heads-up: "Starsilver Trek" and "Magebird Quest" are
    adventures, but "Heroes and Villians" (sic) is not. For my money,
    it's not worth the paper it's printed on, either, but YMMV.



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    Group: dqn-list Message: 374 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: DQPA Input and New DQ Adventures (was:Judges Guild DQ adventures)
    Hullo, JohnR,

    >On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:31:14 -0700, john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca wrote:

    >>From the very beginning, it was never the intention of the DQPA to compete
    >with DragonQuest Activities already occurring on the Net but to seek ways to
    >help and enhance those efforts (I co-moderate the DQN-list and play in
    >Rodger's fledgling online campaign).

    Oh, I didn't mean for it to sound as if the DQPA was
    competing with other DQ activities on the net. Helping to enhance
    the DQ community is what it should be all about, of course, and
    providing a central source of information and material and the like -
    which is what you've done wtih DQPA, and for which I'm very grateful.
    :)

    >Rodger Thorm has done a great job of keeping the interest in DragonQuest alive
    >on the Internet and he deserves that credit.

    Yep, I agree with you. I do hope we see another issue of the
    DQN soon, however. :)

    >> Yeah, but modules for DQ can be awfully long when they're in
    >> the consistent, DQ format (like all of the published ones were).
    >> The question also comes up what format do you put them in, with maps
    >> and all the other material that would go along with these? .PDF is a
    >> good format for the text and maps, but not everyone can use .PDF and
    >> not everyone can create documents or convert documents to .PDF, just
    >> as an example.

    >That is where DQPA potentially comes in. As an association we can start a
    >project run by interested members tasked to develop guidelines for module
    >development building off of work that has already taken place in the past.

    Sounds like a good idea to me. :) One of the things I've
    noticed is that with all the DQ website and the like out there, there
    aren't a lot of modules and the like posted to websites. There's
    more campaign-related materials than actual scenarios and the like.

    >I would assume that one of the recommendations to come out of such a group
    >would be the file format that such documents should be converted into or
    >stored in. PDF is, of course, an appealing format because the reader is
    >supported on many platforms (Macintosh, Windows, UNIX, OS/2).

    One of the reasons I am fond of PDF format files. :)

    >As has been pointed out, not everyone has access to those types of resources.
    >Again here is where DQPA can play a role. A member or members who do have
    >access to these resources can as part of their association contribution
    >volunteer time to converting module documents into PDF documents (if that is
    >the preferred format) for posting to the web site.

    Another good idea, John, and one that I'll second. :)

    ... What, it's Monday again? Didn't we have that *last* week?

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    Group: dqn-list Message: 375 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
    Hullo, JohnR,

    >On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 11:10:14 -0700, john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca wrote:

    >I would also like to see some work done to duplicate this material in
    >multiple places so that we don't have ever have a "Drache Recovery
    >Project" or any other type of recovery project. But this mirroring
    >should (must) be done in a consistent and agreed upon fashion.

    I think the real trick to remember here is that there are two
    issues on this matter. First of all, in order to put material up on
    a website, one has only a limited amount of space on the internet
    provider that one uses (unless one has a server, in which case one is
    still somewhat limited). Secondly, the individuals out there with
    websites have individual preference for different kinds of material.
    That should be not be discouraged in this process. I think there
    should be a central site for all the material, but it's going to be
    impossible to put it *all* on the net, methinks. :)

    ... Blessed are the pessimists, for they hath made backups.

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    Group: dqn-list Message: 376 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
    I agree that the PDF authoring software is expensive, and that it is
    not universally available. That has kept me away from it, too.
    However, it is not my intent to suggest that we _require_ that all
    adventures be in PDF format in order to be archived, but rather that
    PDF (as opposed to something more platform -either hardware or
    software- dependent) was pretty universally accessible by way of free
    reader software. Anything that does make it into PDF format can be
    accessed by all of the online DQ commmunity, so far as I know.

    Like the DragonQuest Newsletter, simple text format is the most
    universal format, and I think it would be ideal to have other DQ
    materials available in both formats (text and PDF). There are at least
    a couple other active members of the DQ community who have indicated
    that they have access to software for PDF authoring in one form or
    another, and I think that we could probably find a way to connect
    authors of DQ material who don't have PDF authoring software with those
    who do in order to make more DQ material accesisble in that format.

    Anyone who wants to list themselves as available to do PDF conversions
    should contact me, and I will put together a list on the Archive
    website page.

    I would like to start compiling DQ adventures in whatever format they
    may currently be. Ultimately, I want to convert anything in a
    non-compliant format into an accessible format, but again, collecting
    it at all is the first step.

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    Group: dqn-list Message: 377 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: Adventure Archive Editorial Board
    Here is another question I would like to open up for discussion:
    Should there be an editorial board for the DQ Adventure Archive?

    As co-moderator for this list, I have tried to be minimally intrusive
    in the discussions here. But there is only a limited amount of storage
    granted to us, and adventures will take up larger chunks of that,
    especially if graphics are included. I would like to have some control
    over the material, but at the same time, I don't want to be autocratic.
    I am always very careful (perhaps too careful) to try to keep my own
    opinion held somewhat in check, so that this can remain an open forum
    for DragonQuest, instead of "Rodger's Idea of What DragonQuest Should
    Be." So, to balance the two issues, I think that having an editorial
    board would be a way to bring in some other input and to keep things
    from having the appearance of being just one man's show.

    Your thoughts on this matter would be most appreciated.

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    Group: dqn-list Message: 378 From: Ian Bacon Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Adventure Archive Editorial Board - Yes
    Just to add my two cents worth.

    I like the idea of an adventure archive but I feel it would be improved with some form of constructive editing, e.g. guidelines for submission, a common format, etc.

    This would make the archive more usable for GMs and players.

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    I am large, I contain multitudes"
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    Group: dqn-list Message: 379 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 7/25/1999
    Subject: The Water Works
    The first adventure in PDF format is now available from the DQN-list
    vault. The direct URL for it is:

    http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dqn-list/Adventures/TheWaterWorks.pdf

    This adventure is one I initially designed for my original group in the
    mid 1980s and was first released on the web in 1994. I only did some
    minor cleanup (changing from Macintosh to PC) and replacing other fonts
    with Thalia (the DragonQuest font).

    Feedback and comments are welcome.

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    Group: dqn-list Message: 380 From: Paul Pishnak Date: 7/26/1999
    Subject: Re: The Water Works
    Attachments :
      I'm either behind the times or missing some posts 'vcause it asks for a password to view the file.

      -----Original Message-----
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      To: dqn-list@eGroups.com
      Subject: [DQN-list] The Water Works

      The first adventure in PDF format is now available from the DQN-list
      vault. The direct URL for it is:

      http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dqn-list/Adventures/TheWaterWorks.pdf

      This adventure is one I initially designed for my original group in the
      mid 1980s and was first released on the web in 1994. I only did some
      minor cleanup (changing from Macintosh to PC) and replacing other fonts
      with Thalia (the DragonQuest font).

      Feedback and comments are welcome.

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      Group: dqn-list Message: 381 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/26/1999
      Subject: Re: The Water Works
      <01bed7b6.8cf4684-@pm3-1-41-fallon.aiinc.com> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=380
      > I'm either behind the times or missing some posts 'vcause it asks for
      a password to view the file.
      >

      Anyone who is a member of the list but has never used the web interface
      must first obtain a password by filling out the simple form on the main
      http://www.egroups.com Once you submit the form egroups email's your
      confirmation of access to the site.

      At least that is how I remember it.

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      Group: dqn-list Message: 382 From: mortdemuerte@yahoo.com Date: 7/26/1999
      Subject: Re: The Water Works
      Great. I was hoping you'd go ahead and start the ball rolling with this one. For the rest of you out there, I used this as my first online adventure and it worked out really well.

      There are a couple of small proofreading things I remember right now. On your map, Room R isn't labeled and what should be Room C is labeled Room E, so there ends up being two Room E's on the map. Easy corrections, I hope.

      When I was first looking this adventure over, there were a number of small typos and things I remembered noting. I'll try to find my notes and send that to you, Rodger. And yes, that does mean I am also starting the ball rolling by volunteering my time to proofreading other's adventures. Just give me three weeks until I'm done teaching summer classes, kay? :) Eventually, I may even post an adventure I ran about a million years ago, if I can find those notes too. I'll need someone to convert to PDF, though :>


      > The first adventure in PDF format is now available from the DQN-list
      > vault. The direct URL for it is:
      >
      > http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dqn-list/Adventures/TheWaterWorks.pdf
      >
      > This adventure is one I initially designed for my original group in the
      > mid 1980s and was first released on the web in 1994. I only did some
      > minor cleanup (changing from Macintosh to PC) and replacing other fonts
      > with Thalia (the DragonQuest font).
      >
      > Feedback and comments are welcome.
      >
      > Rodger Thorm
      >
      >


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      Subject: Re: The Water Works
      <7nikmb$rmt-@egroups.com> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=382

      > I'll need someone to convert to PDF, though :>

      I have access through work to Adobe Acrobat 3.0 and the Microsoft
      Office suite so I am able to create PDFs from a multitude of sources.

      My work also gives me access to the following programs:

      Adobe Photoshop 5.0
      Adobe Illustrator 7.0
      Allaire Homesite
      Macromedia Freehand 8.0
      Macromedia Fireworks
      Macromedia Dreamweaver
      Microsoft Frontpage98
      Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0
      OmniPage Pro 8.0
      Visio Professional
      Winzip 7.0 + Winzip self-extractor

      So I can read/convert just about anything to anything (especially
      within the PC universe).

      John F. Rauchert, Acting President
      DragonQuest Players Association
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      Group: dqn-list Message: 384 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/26/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
      <199907252156.raa2640-@deathstar.comnet.ca> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=375
      Hullo, JohnK,
      >
      I think the real trick to remember here is that there are two
      > issues on this matter. First of all, in order to put material up on
      > a website, one has only a limited amount of space on the internet
      > provider that one uses (unless one has a server, in which case one is
      > still somewhat limited). Secondly, the individuals out there with
      > websites have individual preference for different kinds of material.
      > That should be not be discouraged in this process. I think there
      > should be a central site for all the material, but it's going to be
      > impossible to put it *all* on the net, methinks. :)

      I agree that mirror sites are over and above what a person's normal web
      site would be. If I was a mirror for DQ material I would keep it
      separate from my personal site mostly because that site has a theme [if
      I ever get a chance to work on it], DragonQuest Material oriented to
      the Dark Powers.

      I would also discourage anyone getting involved in mirroring that is
      not willing to commit the disk space necessary to house the material.
      What level of committment is necessary is still to be determined (and
      potentially will grow rapidly). It may be that we will have to split
      the mirrors into subject areas or something like primary and secondary
      sites .

      Just some thoughts...


      I think it was "Blessed are the cheesemakers".
      What's so special about the cheesemakers?
      Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any
      manufacturers of dairy products.

      John F. Rauchert, Acting President
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      Group: dqn-list Message: 385 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 7/29/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
      I will offer 40 MB of space as a mirror. I own my own domain, and see no
      reason why I will ever not own it or have at least that much web space
      available. I run it as a hobby/business, so even if I don't make money, I
      can easily support it's existence.



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      To: dqn-list@egroups.com <dqn-list@egroups.com>
      Date: Monday, July 26, 1999 7:11 PM
      Subject: [DQN-list] Re: DQ Adventure Archive


      > <199907252156.raa2640-@deathstar.comnet.ca> wrote:
      >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=375
      > Hullo, JohnK,
      >>
      >I think the real trick to remember here is that there are two
      >> issues on this matter. First of all, in order to put material up on
      >> a website, one has only a limited amount of space on the internet
      >> provider that one uses (unless one has a server, in which case one is
      >> still somewhat limited). Secondly, the individuals out there with
      >> websites have individual preference for different kinds of material.
      >> That should be not be discouraged in this process. I think there
      >> should be a central site for all the material, but it's going to be
      >> impossible to put it *all* on the net, methinks. :)
      >
      >I agree that mirror sites are over and above what a person's normal web
      >site would be. If I was a mirror for DQ material I would keep it
      >separate from my personal site mostly because that site has a theme [if
      >I ever get a chance to work on it], DragonQuest Material oriented to
      >the Dark Powers.
      >
      >I would also discourage anyone getting involved in mirroring that is
      >not willing to commit the disk space necessary to house the material.
      >What level of committment is necessary is still to be determined (and
      >potentially will grow rapidly). It may be that we will have to split
      >the mirrors into subject areas or something like primary and secondary
      >sites .
      >
      >Just some thoughts...
      >
      >
      >I think it was "Blessed are the cheesemakers".
      >What's so special about the cheesemakers?
      >Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any
      >manufacturers of dairy products.
      >
      >John F. Rauchert, Acting President
      >DragonQuest Players Association
      >www.dragonquest.org
      >
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      Group: dqn-list Message: 386 From: John Carcutt Date: 7/29/1999
      Subject: File conversion help for the DQ community
      Hey everyone,

      JohnR seems to have the PC world covered,
      I will step forward to help out any MAC users that are in need.

      Here is what I can read and anyone who needs help, please don't
      hesitate to contact me.

      Adobe Acrobat 4.0
      Adobe Photoshop 5.0
      Macromedia Dreamweaver 2.0
      Macromedia Director 7.0 (if someone has a cool idea for a DQ shockwave,
      let me know, I'd love to help)
      Macromedia Freehand 8.0
      Macromedia Fireworks 1.0
      Macromedia Flash 3.0
      Microsoft Office 98
      FileMaker Pro 4.0
      BB-edit (for all those text file varieties)
      Various higher end multi-media tools

      When it comes to file issues, the MAC is more cross platform compatible
      than most PCs. So if John is unavailable to help any of you PC users, there
      is a good chance I can help you out as well. I am not trying to start a platform
      war, so if you have any comments to that effect, please reply to me personally
      and not to the list. I can take it. :-)

      John Carcutt
      DQPA POSSE member
      john@carcutt.com


      john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca wrote:

      > I have access through work to Adobe Acrobat 3.0 and the Microsoft
      > Office suite so I am able to create PDFs from a multitude of sources.
      >
      > My work also gives me access to the following programs:
      >
      > Adobe Photoshop 5.0
      > Adobe Illustrator 7.0
      > Allaire Homesite
      > Macromedia Freehand 8.0
      > Macromedia Fireworks
      > Macromedia Dreamweaver
      > Microsoft Frontpage98
      > Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0
      > OmniPage Pro 8.0
      > Visio Professional
      > Winzip 7.0 + Winzip self-extractor
      >
      > So I can read/convert just about anything to anything (especially
      > within the PC universe


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      Group: dqn-list Message: 387 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/29/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ Adventure Archive
      Hullo, JohnR,

      >I agree that mirror sites are over and above what a person's normal web
      >site would be. If I was a mirror for DQ material I would keep it
      >separate from my personal site mostly because that site has a theme [if
      >I ever get a chance to work on it], DragonQuest Material oriented to
      >the Dark Powers.

      Yes, I agree that this would be the way to go. I suspect
      that, when it comes right down to it, there should only be one, maybe
      two, mirror sites of DQ material. For the most part, the webpages
      that folks set up devoted to DragonQuest will be individually
      oriented and to the designer's taste.

      >I would also discourage anyone getting involved in mirroring that is
      >not willing to commit the disk space necessary to house the material.
      >What level of committment is necessary is still to be determined (and
      >potentially will grow rapidly). It may be that we will have to split
      >the mirrors into subject areas or something like primary and secondary
      >sites .

      I would agree with you wholeheartedly here. I don't have
      enough space to do the mirror thing, but that's alright, and it is
      something that I know about myself. Even if I had the web space,
      it's not something I would personally want to have...I don't have the
      amount of time required to keep the mirror up-to-date, another
      consideration when setting up the mirror sites.

      ... Act well your part, for there all the honour lies. (Thespis)

      JohnK
      jkahane@comnet.ca
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      Group: dqn-list Message: 388 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/29/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ (Adventure) Archive
      <199907291234.iaa0664-@deathstar.comnet.ca> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=387

      Hullo, JohnK,
      >
      >For the most part, the webpages
      > that folks set up devoted to DragonQuest will be individually
      > oriented and to the designer's taste.

      And I am considering something more bland more like just the
      information please.

      I would like to extend the archives project to all DQ material of which
      the Adventure Archive would be just one component.

      >
      >I don't have the
      > amount of time required to keep the mirror up-to-date, another
      > consideration when setting up the mirror sites.

      I currently writing up some guidelines and will post them for comments.
      I was thinking a small group under the auspices of DragonQuest
      Webmaster's Guild (maybe the Archivists' Guild).

      These guidelines will be around technical [and legal] aspects of such
      archives and not things like Adventure writing Style Guidelines or
      Editorial boards (I will leave that to others). I have been pretty
      busy with both my online and offline lives so please bear with me.

      "And if his name be George, I 'll call him Peter;
      For new-made honour doth forget men's names." (Will)

      John F. Rauchert, Acting President
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      Group: dqn-list Message: 389 From: John M. Kahane Date: 7/30/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ (Adventure) Archive
      Hullo, JohnR,

      >>For the most part, the webpages that folks set up devoted to
      >>DragonQuest will be individually oriented and to the designer's
      >>taste.

      >And I am considering something more bland more like just the
      >information please.

      Yes, there is that. I guess it depends on what people put up
      on their own webpages and all. This is just something that I think
      is necessary, simply because it's the way of things on the internet
      and the web. Regardless, there's going to be duplication of
      material... you can't get around it.

      >I would like to extend the archives project to all DQ material of which
      >the Adventure Archive would be just one component.

      Exactly. :)

      >>I don't have the amount of time required to keep the mirror
      >>up-to-date, another consideration when setting up the mirror sites.

      >I currently writing up some guidelines and will post them for comments.
      > I was thinking a small group under the auspices of DragonQuest
      >Webmaster's Guild (maybe the Archivists' Guild).

      Sounds like a good idea to me... see what others think of
      it.

      >These guidelines will be around technical [and legal] aspects of such
      >archives and not things like Adventure writing Style Guidelines or
      >Editorial boards (I will leave that to others). I have been pretty
      >busy with both my online and offline lives so please bear with me.

      Yep, and the rest of us also have lives out here, so the game
      isn't our sole focus. Why do you think it takes some of us months
      to update webpages and the like? <g> I've been trying to do some
      work on the DQ webpages, but there is life, the job, and actually
      gaming, of course. :)

      ... Cunning and deceit will serve a man better than force. (Machiavelli)

      JohnK
      jkahane@comnet.ca
      http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane


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      Group: dqn-list Message: 390 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/30/1999
      Subject: UPDATE: DQArchive
      <199907302121.raa2997-@deathstar.comnet.ca> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=389
      Hullo, JohnK,

      > >And I am considering something more bland more like just the
      > >information please.
      >
      >Regardless, there's going to be duplication of
      > material... you can't get around it.

      I guess this is the whole point of the Archive to bring together
      information spread across the Internet into central repositories that
      are duplicated making the resources highly available over a long period
      of time.


      > >I currently writing up some guidelines and will post them for
      comments.

      The guidelines are coming along pretty good. I am gleefully borrowing
      ideas from other archives out there on the net and they have
      encountered most the possible problems already.


      I have also created yet another egroups list for archivists and people
      submitting material.

      Only Archivists will be on the list and receive messages, but anyone
      can submit (archive material or links) to it.

      dqarchivist@eGroups.com

      I am currently the only one on the list. Others will be added as we
      get more Archivists on board.

      >> I have been pretty
      >>busy with both my online and offline lives so please bear with me.
      >
      > Yep, and the rest of us also have lives out here, so the game
      > isn't our sole focus.

      The funny thing about this is I hold an Honours Diploma in Library and
      Information Technology a field I stopped working in to go off and do
      web stuff (so basically my hobby became my work) now I am setting
      myself up to help organize this archive (so my former work now becomes
      my hobby).

      "There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
      conduct, or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the
      introduction of a new order of things." (Machiavelli)


      John F. Rauchert
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      Group: dqn-list Message: 391 From: Bishop Carlmund Date: 7/31/1999
      Subject: DQ at GENCON (from AUSTRALIA)
      Hi,
      Is there any sort of gathering of us DQ people at GENCON? I am coming over
      from Australia and would love to meet other DQ Players. I would especially
      like to meet John Carcutt and John Rauchert who are leading the DQ fightback
      here. Heck, I just like meeting people and I'm hoping to stay a couple of
      weeks longer and see some of your fine country as well.
      Please could you reply before monday (sorry about the short notice) as that
      will be when I'm flying out.
      Hoping to see you at GENCON,
      Andrew.


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      Group: dqn-list Message: 392 From: john.rauchert@sait.ab.ca Date: 7/31/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ at GENCON (from AUSTRALIA)
      <37a3add5.4259019-@churcharmy.com.au> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=391
      > Hi,
      > Is there any sort of gathering of us DQ people at GENCON? I am coming
      over
      > from Australia and would love to meet other DQ Players. I would
      especially
      > like to meet John Carcutt and John Rauchert who are leading the DQ
      fightback
      > here. Heck, I just like meeting people and I'm hoping to stay a
      couple of
      > weeks longer and see some of your fine country as well.
      > Please could you reply before monday (sorry about the short notice)
      as that
      > will be when I'm flying out.
      > Hoping to see you at GENCON,
      > Andrew.
      >
      >

      Andrew,

      DQPA has not planned an official presence at GENCON this year since we
      are still in the formative stages.

      I have posted your message to the WEBRPG forum as well to see if any
      players out there are going.

      For people who don't know GenCon is being held this year, August 5–8 in
      Milwaukee.

      Unfortunately, my meat job requires me to be there over this period.

      John Rauchert lives in Calgary, Alberta, Canada
      John Carcutt lives in Hilliard, Ohio, USA

      So unless anyone else is going you are our rep so hold that DQ banner
      high!

      John F. Rauchert, Acting President
      DragonQuest Players Association
      www.dragonquest.org





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      Group: dqn-list Message: 393 From: John M. Kahane Date: 8/1/1999
      Subject: Re: UPDATE: DQArchive
      Hulo, JohnR,

      >>>And I am considering something more bland more like just the
      >>>information please.

      >>Regardless, there's going to be duplication of material... you can't
      >> get around it.

      >I guess this is the whole point of the Archive to bring together
      >information spread across the Internet into central repositories that
      >are duplicated making the resources highly available over a long period
      >of time.

      Yes, and I think it's a noble exercise. The Priest Skill
      that I had remembered seeing once upon a time is a good example of
      this. If that material were available, it would make the world of
      difference for a lot of us, since it was highly innovative. And it
      would now be in a central repository. :)

      >The guidelines are coming along pretty good. I am gleefully borrowing
      >ideas from other archives out there on the net and they have
      >encountered most the possible problems already.

      Glad to hear this is coming along. Look forward to reading
      them. :)

      >The funny thing about this is I hold an Honours Diploma in Library and
      >Information Technology a field I stopped working in to go off and do
      >web stuff (so basically my hobby became my work) now I am setting
      >myself up to help organize this archive (so my former work now becomes
      >my hobby).

      I love it. Don't you love irony, too? <g>


      ... The instruments of darkness tell us truths. (MacBeth)

      JohnK
      jkahane@comnet.ca
      http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
      Group: dqn-list Message: 394 From: dqn@ntsource.com Date: 8/1/1999
      Subject: Links MIRROR
      The DQN-list now has a mirror of the DQPA's DragonQuest Links in place.
      We will maintain it so that updates to the DQPA set will be updated
      here as soon as possible.

      Rodger Thorm
      Group: dqn-list Message: 395 From: ssclark@icx.net Date: 8/7/1999
      Subject: DQ PBEM campaign is going well
      Hi, just wanted to update everyone on the PBEM game of DQ I and 4 other guys
      are playing. Things are going well so far! I'd be glad to take along some
      of you guys as lurkers (you get the emailed turns, but don't actually
      participate in the adventure).

      Things are just heating up as the characters have met and set up a party in
      Seagate (from the Alusia map). They have just started their first big
      adventure.

      You can check out more info at my DQ web page:
      http://user.icx.net/~ssclark/dq.htm

      Email me if you'd like to lurk along and see how it is going!
      Group: dqn-list Message: 396 From: ssclark@icx.net Date: 8/7/1999
      Subject: New DQ stuff on my web page
      Hi. My "fifth book" of DQ, Worldy Endeavor, has been updated to version 1.0
      now. If you are not already in my group getting regular updates of this big
      addition to DQ, please email me and I'll add you. WE has a bunch of new
      skills, professions, new magic, and new adventuring rules all organized in one
      file! My web page has more details on this.

      Also, I will soon have a complete DQ adventure available. Called The Blue
      Sarcophagus, this adventure will have several NPC's, 2 pages of maps, and
      about 24 room descriptions. There's a preview of the adventure on my web page
      at...
      http://user.icx.net/~ssclark/dq.htm
      Group: dqn-list Message: 397 From: Todd E. Schreiber Date: 8/8/1999
      Subject: Character Sheet extaordinaire
      I was wondering if anyone out there has put my character sheet to use
      besides myself? It calculates just about everything there is to calculate.
      Oh, its the one found here: http://www.platinumcrown.com/DQ/ in the Game
      Stuff section.

      I have also been working on a new sheet that includes "situations", so that
      you will know what all your characters abilities are whether he's in his
      leather, clothes, chain, and also depending upon what he's using for weapons
      at the time, without having to print out 8 different copies of your
      character sheet. The existing character sheet does this if you're sitting
      in front of a computer while you're gaming, but most people don't. If there
      is real interest, not just one person saying "Sure why don't you make it",
      I'll continue and get it done. Its real complex to create, though, so after
      hitting a few road blocks I left it on the back burner. Real interest in
      the sheet would cause me to maybe get it finished.
      Group: dqn-list Message: 398 From: Chris Short Date: 8/8/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ PBEM campaign is going well
      VERY NICE

      I have to say a bit too much info for us players
      Arthur a thief eh !!!

      Storms description - SPOT ON!!!

      And sowe are off doing the Blue Sarcophagus scenario - OK, soi I can presume
      somewhere we can find an important artifact - a blue sarcophagus eh !!!!
      Please don't put it on the net till we have completed it. The temptation
      would be too much.
      Keep it up - great fun.
      Chris



      -----Original Message-----
      From: ssclark@icx.net [mailto:ssclark@icx.net]
      Sent: 07 August 1999 06:54
      To: dqn-list@eGroups.com
      Subject: [DQN-list] DQ PBEM campaign is going well


      Hi, just wanted to update everyone on the PBEM game of DQ I and 4 other guys
      are playing. Things are going well so far! I'd be glad to take along some
      of you guys as lurkers (you get the emailed turns, but don't actually
      participate in the adventure).

      Things are just heating up as the characters have met and set up a party in
      Seagate (from the Alusia map). They have just started their first big
      adventure.

      You can check out more info at my DQ web page:
      http://user.icx.net/~ssclark/dq.htm

      Email me if you'd like to lurk along and see how it is going!


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      Group: dqn-list Message: 399 From: ssclark@icx.net Date: 8/12/1999
      Subject: Re: DQ PBEM campaign is going well
      He who assumes that all he reads on web page will be true in real adventure
      He be a man who has not long to live....
      Mu hu ha ha ha!

      --ancient Orcish epigram

      http://user.icx.net/~ssclark/dq.htm

      <ncbbidbhilkefjaffdanoedpcbaa.chri-@zace.demon.co.uk> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dqn-list/?start=398
      > VERY NICE
      >
      > I have to say a bit too much info for us players
      > Arthur a thief eh !!!
      >
      > Storms description - SPOT ON!!!
      >
      > And sowe are off doing the Blue Sarcophagus scenario - OK, soi I can presume
      > somewhere we can find an important artifact - a blue sarcophagus eh !!!!
      > Please don't put it on the net till we have completed it. The temptation
      > would be too much.
      > Keep it up - great fun.
      > Chris
      Group: dqn-list Message: 400 From: john@carcutt.com Date: 8/12/1999
      Subject: DQPA link page updated
      Hey Everyone,

      Just wanted to drop you all a note and let you know I finally got
      around to doing this months link page update.

      I have been getting hammered at work, sorry it's late.

      JohnC (aka:Ax'l)
      Group: dqn-list Message: 401 From: john@carcutt.com Date: 8/20/1999
      Subject: DQPA Membership Database
      Hey All,

      Just wanted to let you know that the DQPA membership database will be down
      this weekend. The building that houses the server is going to have the power
      shut-down for annual maintenance. The rest of the www.dragonquest.org site
      should be running fine. Only the Database will be effected by the power
      shut-down.

      Things should be back to normal on Monday morning.

      JohnC
      Group: dqn-list Message: 402 From: rnegron@mindspring.com Date: 9/1/1999
      Subject: Looking for players in Manhattan
      Hi;

      I am looking for players interested in joining an ongoing group in the
      East Village, Manhattan. We have been playing for four years or so.
      We play three times a month on saturday or fiday evenings please email
      if interested.

      Thanks.