--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "D. Cameron King" <monarchy2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> Man, it feels weird to see something I wrote over 10 years ago. The Internet really doesn't forget!
>
>
>
> -Cameron
>
> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > From: brockrwood@...
> > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:32:31 +0000
> > Subject: [DQN-list] Re: First Thread
> >
> > OK, here is a long-shot: I am replying to message posted to the group in 1999!
> >
> > Like D. Cameron King (see below), I GM DragonQuest using the World of Greyhawk campaign setting map. In fact, we still use original 1980 map in our game play (we are careful not to spill anything on it!).
> >
> > I use the place names and geography from the map and everything else (with a very few execeptions) is home-brewed by me.
> >
> > I have looked at some old Judges Guild modules that were designed to work with D&D and AD&D. I would like to borrow some of the good ideas in those modules, including interesting NPC's.
> >
> > Has anyone created a formalized system for converting a D&D or AD&D character's stats to DragonQuest? Even a simple nuermical conversion table, such as "an 18 strength in D&D = a 21 strength in DragonQuest" would be helpful.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help you can render in helping me keep DragonQuest alive and well!
> >
> > - Brock
> >
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Lonny Eckert <leckert@> wrote:
> > >
> > > D. Cameron King wrote:
> > > > I'm running my current campaign in the World of Greyhawk. I
> > > > do not use CC2. I chose Greyhawk because I've converted a large
> > > > number of old AD&D adventures for use with DQ, and rather than
> > > > try to fit them into the Frontiers of Alusia, I decided to just
> > > > tweak Greyhawk. It works pretty well.
> > >
> > > Jason Winter wrote:
> > > > I am also a CC2/DD2 user. Am currently working on the FR Atlas project
> > > > just because I had a bit of free time on my hands and it sounded like a
> > > > good excuse to make myself take the time to learn how to use CC2.
> > >
> > > Well, I work with a small group of folks working on rendering Greyhawk
> > > maps in CC2. Both ProFantasy and WOTC/TSR are aware of our existance.
> > > We will have a decent start if WOTC decides to contract for a Greyhawk
> > > CD-ROM akin to that being done for the Forgotten Realms.
> > >
> > > What does this have with DQ? How much interest would there be in
> > > helping out in doing conversions of Greyhawk moducles and accessories to
> > > DQ stats? Alot of things have to fall into place for this to happen.
> > > This would take quite a bit of effort from individuals who have Greyhawk
> > > materials and can work in PDF format.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lonny
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Brock" <brockrwood@...> wrote:
>
> A buddy of mine back in Virginia who has been playing RPG's since the late 70's (like me, except I stopped playing for 20 years) swears by Rolemaster and wishes the system was still supported.
>
> - Brock
>
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "gurglezoid00" <gurglezoid00@> wrote:
> >
> > When I'm in the mood for fantasy gaming and can't get my fix with DQ, I generally run Rolemaster or older versions of D&D.
> >
> > Rolemaster has classes and levels, but at least allows a player to take a variety of skills so that in the end there is great flexibility (like DQ).
> >
> > I've also played (but not run) 2nd and 3rd edition Runequest. It also allows certain freedom of skill selection, but I always felt it was better suited to "ancients" rather than "medieval" fantasy tropes. It tends to have a heavier emphasis on shamanistic magic which really isn't my preference. Hence it comes last on my list.
> >
> > I've barely scratched the surface with 1st edition Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, but what I saw I liked OK.
> >
> > I've not tried the others on your list.
> >
> > John Barnes
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "kaith_athanes" <kaith_athanes@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Brock" <brockrwood@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I know that this is speaking heresy, but I am genuinely curious.
> > > >
> > > > Is there another system that has some of the positive qualities we like in DragonQuest that you have GMed or would consider GMing? If so, what is it?
> > > >
> > > > The Palladium Fantasy Role-Playing Game?
> > > >
> > > > GURPS?
> > >
> > > GURPS has the skill based system that lets you make any character you want, much like DQ, but the creation system is much more involved. Its biggest strength is in cross-genre games. For gritty fantasy, I still prefer DQ.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay?
> > >
> > > I haven't looked at the latest version, but I really enjoy the 2nd edition. The career system is interesting and I enjoy the background. There are no levels and you aren't restricted to a single career, so in that way it is similar to DQ. This is a game I would run if I could find a group intersted in playing.
> > > >
> > > > HERO System?
> > > >
> > > > RuneQuest or "Basic Roleplaying"?
> > > >
> > > > Unisystem?
> > > >
> > > > Tunnels and Trolls?
> > > >
> > > > Bunnies and Burrows?
> > > >
> > > > Something else?
> > > >
> > > > - Brock
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Dont suppose he might be willing to share playtest material with us? like advanced monsters, etc? :) --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Brock <brockrwood@eurekais.com> wrote: From: Brock <brockrwood@eurekais.com> Subject: [DQN-list] Eric Goldberg To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 12:25 PM Hello, everyone.  Recently I corresponded by e-mail with Mr. Eric Goldberg, one of the designers of DragonQuest. Based on my e-mail conversation, I must say that he is a very accessible and exceptionally gracious person. He says that he is very gratified to hear that a game he designed 30 years ago is still providing enjoyment to its fans. There you are - the creator of the game takes off his hat to the fans.  That's a cool gesture, don't you think? - Brock ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dqn-list/ <*> Your email settings:     Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dqn-list/join     (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email:     dqn-list-digest@yahoogroups.com     dqn-list-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     dqn-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Larry Freeman <larry.d.freeman@...> wrote:
>
> I second that!!!!!!!
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dont suppose he might be willing to share playtest material with us? like
> > advanced monsters, etc? :)
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 2/26/10, Brock <brockrwood@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Brock <brockrwood@...>
> > Subject: [DQN-list] Eric Goldberg
> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 12:25 PM
> >
> > Hello, everyone. Recently I corresponded by e-mail with Mr. Eric Goldberg,
> > one of the designers of DragonQuest.
> >
> > Based on my e-mail conversation, I must say that he is a very accessible
> > and exceptionally gracious person.
> >
> > He says that he is very gratified to hear that a game he designed 30 years
> > ago is still providing enjoyment to its fans.
> >
> > There you are - the creator of the game takes off his hat to the fans.
> > That's a cool gesture, don't you think?
> >
> > - Brock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@...> wrote:
>
> Dont suppose he might be willing to share playtest material with us? like advanced monsters, etc? :)
>
> --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Brock <brockrwood@...> wrote:
>
> From: Brock <brockrwood@...>
> Subject: [DQN-list] Eric Goldberg
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 12:25 PM
>
> Hello, everyone.  Recently I corresponded by e-mail with Mr. Eric Goldberg, one of the designers of DragonQuest.
>
> Based on my e-mail conversation, I must say that he is a very accessible and exceptionally gracious person.
>
> He says that he is very gratified to hear that a game he designed 30 years ago is still providing enjoyment to its fans.
>
> There you are - the creator of the game takes off his hat to the fans.  That's a cool gesture, don't you think?
>
> - Brock
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, SCOTT RUSZCZYK <sruszczyk0628@...> wrote:
>
> Like most gamers, especially the one who have palyed FUDGE and enjoyed it, I now have the artifically inflated belief that I too can create a game. I am in the process of doing this and will in all likely hood release it for free on this forum or to anyone who asks. The basic dice mechanic is taken from DQ and most of my influences have been DQ, ARS, FUDGE, D&D all additions (yes even the blue box, my first game) GURPS, Runequest, Call of Cthulu, and others. My experience tells me, when I look back on my best campaigns or the ones I have played in, is this...the system is the least important part of the game most of the time. A good story with good characters, will always be a good story with good characters. The restraints that some systems put on a charatcers or GMs imagination is often the only down side to a particular system. During the 80 and 90 my RPG group and I experimented with numerous different systems and game mechanics, when I look back the
> only thing I seem to be able to remember are the stories/ laughs/ fun we have had.
>
> with full knowledge of the futility of my actions, nevertheless, this is where I make my stand
>

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "John Rauchert" <jfrauchert@...> wrote:
>
> I admit that I haven't looked at this in awhile and have a harder time
> remembering what my rationale was for these numbers (which I think I put
> together a number of years before that).
>
>
>
> I think at the time I did not have a good sense of how people's beginning
> characteristics changed over the course of long campaign since none of our
> groups had lasted that long.
>
>
>
> I would ask the DQ community their experiences are in that area.
>
>
>
> I think that my Fatigue scores were less averaging and more based on my view
> that:
>
>
>
> "This revised version of the shape-changer was spawned by my feeling that
> this player race was very over-powered and though rare, just one could
> seriously unbalance a group."
>
>
>
> JohnR
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dqn-list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Ted
> Sent: February 24, 2010 6:12 PM
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DQN-list] Re: How Do I Generate Ability Scores for Shapechanger?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Looks like you and I are using pretty much the same modifiers. In most cases
> just a few differences one point give or take ...probably just rounding
> differences. Also looks like you did the same thing I've been thinking of
> doing with MA and not altering it.
>
> It looks like for PC you used "8" as the avg human value. Is that correct?
> I've been using 15 for it like all the other stats. Just curious as to why
> you went that route. I can see where your calc would give higher PC values
> closer to the animal's normal range as soon as the character is generated.
>
> One thing I've not thought about in a while is if the animal form stats
> would increase (or decrease) after play begins, if the human stats change,
> most likely through experience points. PC being one of the stats most likely
> to get raised, and if the animal stats change along with the human's, then
> the animal form PC would soon blow way past the normal range. Using 8 as the
> avg human stat means this happens very early. Using 15 just means it happens
> later, but it still happens.
>
> Course if the animals stats don't move (like FT doesnt change automatically
> with increases or decreases in EN after the character is generated) then
> your starting point will make sure they have at least a normal PC for an
> animal of that type. Mine would gimp them on PC in that instance...
>
> My first inclination is to go with your PC calculation and freeze the animal
> stats after generation.
>
> What are your thoughts/experiences with that?
>
> My FT modifers are also difference from yours. They all seem to be 2-5
> points higher than yours. Do you recall what you based your FT mod
> calculation on? I used a human avg FT of 20 (which came from the human EN
> avg of 15)for my calcs and for instance have a +13 FT for Wolf shapechangers
> compared to your +9.
>
> Ted
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroup <mailto:dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com> s.com,
> "John_Rauchert" <jfrauchert@> wrote:
> >
> > Back in 1995 we did a Shape Changer Special Issue. In it is my thoughts on
> Reshaping the Shape-Changer.
> >
> > http://johnrauchert
> <http://johnrauchert.brinkster.net/dq/archive/dqnewsletter/dqv2n4.htm>
> .brinkster.net/dq/archive/dqnewsletter/dqv2n4.htm
> >
> > JohnR
> >
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroup <mailto:dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com> s.com,
> "gurglezoid00" <gurglezoid00@> wrote:
> > >
> > > One of the sections of DQ that has always been ambiguous to me is
> exactly how does one generate the attribute values (both human form and
> animal form)for a Shapechanger character.
> > >
> > > The text reads "The shape-changer must devise a characteristic for his
> animal form. Take the difference between the average for each characteristic
> in animal and human form, and modify the human characteristic accordingly."
> > >
> > > My main question is this: Does the above mentioned "modified human
> characteristic" serve as the shape-changer's "animal" form, or is it his
> "human" form? In other words, do you use a standard human's range of
> characteristics for the human form, and use the modification to human values
> to create the animal form or do you use the modification to serve as the
> "human" form while using a standard animal's range for the "animal" form?
> The differences between the two are striking.
> > >
> > > Also, which animal characteristics do you base the average on? In the
> text for lycanthropes (which would seem to be similar), they say to use
> enhanced values for Tiger, Boar or Bear (+2 to PS, EN and FT) and the Dire
> Wolf for the wolf form. Would this be reasonable to apply to a shape-changer
> character as well?
> > >
> >
>

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Chris Klug <eaglewing@...> wrote:
>
> All
>
> Let's see, so many things I want to say...
>
> First off, yes I'm still on the ETC faculty. For the time being.
>
> And, just to give credit where credit is due, I didn't create the game.
> Eric Goldberg waa the architect, Ted Woods designed the magic system,
> and I did the second edition combat system.
>
> But I certainly was the biggest advocate.
>
> Are the other DQ groups worth subscribing to?
>
> I'll take a look at the players association, for sure.
>
> The biggest 'lost' document was Arcane Wisdom, but I assume you've all
> got that one.
>
> How many of you use the rules straight, as opposed to wholesale
> changes? I mean, we all tinker, but I'd be curious what has stood the
> ravages of time...
>
> Have any of you heard of the second unpublished fantasy RPG that
> Goldberg and Woods were working on? I playtested it, and am curious
> whether word of that has leaked out over the years.
>
> Chris
>

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@...> wrote:
>
> Any chance you could ask him? :-) and I'd willing to take scans or copies :-D lol
>
> --- On Sun, 2/28/10, viktor.haag@... <viktor.haag@...> wrote:
>
> From: viktor.haag@... <viktor.haag@...>
> Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:28 PM
>
> But I have no idea whether he still has any DQ materials, or if he did, whether he has any interest in relinquishing them.
>
> V.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viktor.haag@...
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:41
> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>
> Neil Randall who did some playtesting of DQ (I believe) and later development for the James Bond RPG and GMT wargames is Prof Neil Randall at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada.
>
> V.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rodger Thorm <rthorm@...>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:06:57
> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>
> We had some contact with Gerald Klug (who now goes by 'Chris' although
> he's not the snowboarding Chris Klug) for the DragonQuest Newsletter.
> And, there have been other accounts of other groups getting in touch
> with members of the DQ team that are similar in describing their
> accessibility and graciousness.  I think they were a good group, and
> it's too bad they haven't received more recognition.
>
> It can seem a bit odd to be a fanboy of someone else's work, but, having
> received a couple of congratulations for my non-pseudonymous work out in
> the real world, I can say from my own perspective that it's wonderful to
> have someone appreciate work you have done, and I expect they are
> heartened by the occasional ping from one of us reminding them that some
> of us still love work they produced over a quarter century ago.
>
> -- Rodger
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Brock" <brockrwood@...> wrote:
> --- snip ---
> Several months after parting ways with SPI, I began work -- again
> with the benefit of Ted Woods' considerable design talent -- on a
> second fantasy role-playing game with the working title of "The
> Compleat Enchanter", and my creative energies in connection with FRPs
> were shifted to that project. Ironically, "Enchanter" was never
> completed, let alone published.
> --- snip ---
>
> - Brock
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <bobconstans@yahoo.ca>
To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)


I seem to recall hearing somewhere that everything that could be leaked &
scrounged up by the designers in regards to DQ had been "set free" some time
after SPI fell to TSR - not so much as a revenge but as a courtesy to the
gamers and with pride by the designers. They were universally regarded as
the top designers in the field and respected as such. A great bunch of guys
happy to encourage any "afterlife" of DQ. But who knows - there could be
more turned up with time or memory. As Geoff says, Absolutely can't hurt to
ask. If nothing else, they'd probably appreciate kowing that they still have
fans.

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@...> wrote:
>
> Any chance you could ask him? :-) and I'd willing to take scans or copies
> :-D lol
>
> --- On Sun, 2/28/10, viktor.haag@... <viktor.haag@...> wrote:
>
> From: viktor.haag@... <viktor.haag@...>
> Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:28 PM
>
> But I have no idea whether he still has any DQ materials, or if he did,
> whether he has any interest in relinquishing them.
>
> V.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viktor.haag@...
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:41
> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>
> Neil Randall who did some playtesting of DQ (I believe) and later
> development for the James Bond RPG and GMT wargames is Prof Neil Randall
> at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada.
>
> V.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rodger Thorm <rthorm@...>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:06:57
> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>
> We had some contact with Gerald Klug (who now goes by 'Chris' although
> he's not the snowboarding Chris Klug) for the DragonQuest Newsletter.
> And, there have been other accounts of other groups getting in touch
> with members of the DQ team that are similar in describing their
> accessibility and graciousness. I think they were a good group, and
> it's too bad they haven't received more recognition.
>
> It can seem a bit odd to be a fanboy of someone else's work, but, having
> received a couple of congratulations for my non-pseudonymous work out in
> the real world, I can say from my own perspective that it's wonderful to
> have someone appreciate work you have done, and I expect they are
> heartened by the occasional ping from one of us reminding them that some
> of us still love work they produced over a quarter century ago.
>
> -- Rodger
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@...> wrote:
>
> Back in the day I was a SPI fan. In one of their magazine surveys they
> asked if anyone was interested in an army combat simulation (aka game) for
> DQ. I don't know if any research had been done on the idea.
>
> ~Jeffery~
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob" <bobconstans@...>
> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:05 AM
> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>
>
> I seem to recall hearing somewhere that everything that could be leaked &
> scrounged up by the designers in regards to DQ had been "set free" some time
> after SPI fell to TSR - not so much as a revenge but as a courtesy to the
> gamers and with pride by the designers. They were universally regarded as
> the top designers in the field and respected as such. A great bunch of guys
> happy to encourage any "afterlife" of DQ. But who knows - there could be
> more turned up with time or memory. As Geoff says, Absolutely can't hurt to
> ask. If nothing else, they'd probably appreciate kowing that they still have
> fans.
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Any chance you could ask him? :-) and I'd willing to take scans or copies
> > :-D lol
> >
> > --- On Sun, 2/28/10, viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@> wrote:
> >
> > From: viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@>
> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:28 PM
> >
> > But I have no idea whether he still has any DQ materials, or if he did,
> > whether he has any interest in relinquishing them.
> >
> > V.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: viktor.haag@
> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:41
> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> >
> > Neil Randall who did some playtesting of DQ (I believe) and later
> > development for the James Bond RPG and GMT wargames is Prof Neil Randall
> > at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada.
> >
> > V.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rodger Thorm <rthorm@>
> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:06:57
> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> >
> > We had some contact with Gerald Klug (who now goes by 'Chris' although
> > he's not the snowboarding Chris Klug) for the DragonQuest Newsletter.
> > And, there have been other accounts of other groups getting in touch
> > with members of the DQ team that are similar in describing their
> > accessibility and graciousness. I think they were a good group, and
> > it's too bad they haven't received more recognition.
> >
> > It can seem a bit odd to be a fanboy of someone else's work, but, having
> > received a couple of congratulations for my non-pseudonymous work out in
> > the real world, I can say from my own perspective that it's wonderful to
> > have someone appreciate work you have done, and I expect they are
> > heartened by the occasional ping from one of us reminding them that some
> > of us still love work they produced over a quarter century ago.
> >
> > -- Rodger
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "shawng" <shawn4186@msn.com>
To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:02 PM
Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)


> Yes - excellent point. The surveys in the back of ARES gave alot of info
> on what they were think about doing and what could have been.
> This from ARES #5 November 1980 relating to DQ:
> - Creating wilderness adventure
> - Creating urban adventures
> - Randomized Dungeon kit
> - Handbook of advanced skills
> - Castle building and estate management
> if you want the full description I can type them up.
> I don't dont remember there being anything in Moves magazine, which was
> more about historical "real life" wars and battles, but sometimes they had
> some extra stuff about fantasy - I know I have two Moves magazines where
> they talked about Death Maze and Citadel of blood.
>
> By the way what other SPI games did you play?
>
> Anyone ever play Air War?
>
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Back in the day I was a SPI fan. In one of their magazine surveys they
>> asked if anyone was interested in an army combat simulation (aka game)
>> for
>> DQ. I don't know if any research had been done on the idea.
>>
>> ~Jeffery~
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob" <bobconstans@...>
>> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:05 AM
>> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>>
>>
>> I seem to recall hearing somewhere that everything that could be leaked &
>> scrounged up by the designers in regards to DQ had been "set free" some
>> time
>> after SPI fell to TSR - not so much as a revenge but as a courtesy to the
>> gamers and with pride by the designers. They were universally regarded as
>> the top designers in the field and respected as such. A great bunch of
>> guys
>> happy to encourage any "afterlife" of DQ. But who knows - there could be
>> more turned up with time or memory. As Geoff says, Absolutely can't hurt
>> to
>> ask. If nothing else, they'd probably appreciate kowing that they still
>> have
>> fans.
>>
>> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Any chance you could ask him? :-) and I'd willing to take scans or
>> > copies
>> > :-D lol
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 2/28/10, viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@>
>> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:28 PM
>> >
>> > But I have no idea whether he still has any DQ materials, or if he did,
>> > whether he has any interest in relinquishing them.
>> >
>> > V.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: viktor.haag@
>> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:41
>> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>> >
>> > Neil Randall who did some playtesting of DQ (I believe) and later
>> > development for the James Bond RPG and GMT wargames is Prof Neil
>> > Randall
>> > at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada.
>> >
>> > V.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Rodger Thorm <rthorm@>
>> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:06:57
>> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>> >
>> > We had some contact with Gerald Klug (who now goes by 'Chris' although
>> > he's not the snowboarding Chris Klug) for the DragonQuest Newsletter.
>> > And, there have been other accounts of other groups getting in touch
>> > with members of the DQ team that are similar in describing their
>> > accessibility and graciousness. I think they were a good group, and
>> > it's too bad they haven't received more recognition.
>> >
>> > It can seem a bit odd to be a fanboy of someone else's work, but,
>> > having
>> > received a couple of congratulations for my non-pseudonymous work out
>> > in
>> > the real world, I can say from my own perspective that it's wonderful
>> > to
>> > have someone appreciate work you have done, and I expect they are
>> > heartened by the occasional ping from one of us reminding them that
>> > some
>> > of us still love work they produced over a quarter century ago.
>> >
>> > -- Rodger
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Jeffery K. McGonagill <igmod@comcast.net> wrote:

 

War in Europe and War in the Pacific were my favorites.

Fantasy Games: Sword and Sorcery, Sorcerer, Ragarok, War of the Ring,
Albion, John Carter Warlord of Mars, Barbarian Kings.

History Games: Highway to the Reich, Atlantic Wall, Austerlitz: Battle of
the Three Emperors, various Blue&Gray games, PRESTAGS Masterpack.

Sci-Fi: Creature That Ate Sheboygan, Starforce: Alpha Centauri, Outreach,
Wreck of the B.S.M. Pandora, Voyage of the B.S.M. Pandora.

All of these are part of my collection. I lost a few games in a divorce,
gave my nephews some.

~Jeffery~

----- Original Message -----
From: "shawng" <shawn4186@msn.com>
To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:02 PM
Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)

> Yes - excellent point. The surveys in the back of ARES gave alot of info
> on what they were think about doing and what could have been.
> This from ARES #5 November 1980 relating to DQ:
> - Creating wilderness adventure
> - Creating urban adventures
> - Randomized Dungeon kit
> - Handbook of advanced skills
> - Castle building and estate management
> if you want the full description I can type them up.
> I don't dont remember there being anything in Moves magazine, which was
> more about historical "real life" wars and battles, but sometimes they had
> some extra stuff about fantasy - I know I have two Moves magazines where
> they talked about Death Maze and Citadel of blood.
>
> By the way what other SPI games did you play?
>
> Anyone ever play Air War?
>
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Back in the day I was a SPI fan. In one of their magazine surveys they
>> asked if anyone was interested in an army combat simulation (aka game)
>> for
>> DQ. I don't know if any research had been done on the idea.
>>
>> ~Jeffery~
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob" <bobconstans@...>
>> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:05 AM
>> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>>
>>
>> I seem to recall hearing somewhere that everything that could be leaked &
>> scrounged up by the designers in regards to DQ had been "set free" some
>> time
>> after SPI fell to TSR - not so much as a revenge but as a courtesy to the
>> gamers and with pride by the designers. They were universally regarded as
>> the top designers in the field and respected as such. A great bunch of
>> guys
>> happy to encourage any "afterlife" of DQ. But who knows - there could be
>> more turned up with time or memory. As Geoff says, Absolutely can't hurt
>> to
>> ask. If nothing else, they'd probably appreciate kowing that they still
>> have
>> fans.
>>
>> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Any chance you could ask him? :-) and I'd willing to take scans or
>> > copies
>> > :-D lol
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 2/28/10, viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@>
>> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:28 PM
>> >
>> > But I have no idea whether he still has any DQ materials, or if he did,
>> > whether he has any interest in relinquishing them.
>> >
>> > V.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: viktor.haag@
>> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:41
>> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>> >
>> > Neil Randall who did some playtesting of DQ (I believe) and later
>> > development for the James Bond RPG and GMT wargames is Prof Neil
>> > Randall
>> > at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada.
>> >
>> > V.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Rodger Thorm <rthorm@>
>> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:06:57
>> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>> >
>> > We had some contact with Gerald Klug (who now goes by 'Chris' although
>> > he's not the snowboarding Chris Klug) for the DragonQuest Newsletter.
>> > And, there have been other accounts of other groups getting in touch
>> > with members of the DQ team that are similar in describing their
>> > accessibility and graciousness. I think they were a good group, and
>> > it's too bad they haven't received more recognition.
>> >
>> > It can seem a bit odd to be a fanboy of someone else's work, but,
>> > having
>> > received a couple of congratulations for my non-pseudonymous work out
>> > in
>> > the real world, I can say from my own perspective that it's wonderful
>> > to
>> > have someone appreciate work you have done, and I expect they are
>> > heartened by the occasional ping from one of us reminding them that
>> > some
>> > of us still love work they produced over a quarter century ago.
>> >
>> > -- Rodger
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> From: brockrwood@eurekais.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:19:36 +0000
> Subject: [DQN-list] Re: First Thread
>
> Scary, isn't it? :)
>
> Still running that DragonQuest campaign using Greyhawk?
>
> - Brock
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "D. Cameron King" <monarchy2000@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Man, it feels weird to see something I wrote over 10 years ago. The Internet really doesn't forget!
> >
> >
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: brockrwood@...
> > > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:32:31 +0000
> > > Subject: [DQN-list] Re: First Thread
> > >
> > > OK, here is a long-shot: I am replying to message posted to the group in 1999!
> > >
> > > Like D. Cameron King (see below), I GM DragonQuest using the World of Greyhawk campaign setting map. In fact, we still use original 1980 map in our game play (we are careful not to spill anything on it!).
> > >
> > > I use the place names and geography from the map and everything else (with a very few execeptions) is home-brewed by me.
> > >
> > > I have looked at some old Judges Guild modules that were designed to work with D&D and AD&D. I would like to borrow some of the good ideas in those modules, including interesting NPC's.
> > >
> > > Has anyone created a formalized system for converting a D&D or AD&D character's stats to DragonQuest? Even a simple nuermical conversion table, such as "an 18 strength in D&D = a 21 strength in DragonQuest" would be helpful.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any help you can render in helping me keep DragonQuest alive and well!
> > >
> > > - Brock
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Lonny Eckert <leckert@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > D. Cameron King wrote:
> > > > > I'm running my current campaign in the World of Greyhawk. I
> > > > > do not use CC2. I chose Greyhawk because I've converted a large
> > > > > number of old AD&D adventures for use with DQ, and rather than
> > > > > try to fit them into the Frontiers of Alusia, I decided to just
> > > > > tweak Greyhawk. It works pretty well.
> > > >
> > > > Jason Winter wrote:
> > > > > I am also a CC2/DD2 user. Am currently working on the FR Atlas project
> > > > > just because I had a bit of free time on my hands and it sounded like a
> > > > > good excuse to make myself take the time to learn how to use CC2.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I work with a small group of folks working on rendering Greyhawk
> > > > maps in CC2. Both ProFantasy and WOTC/TSR are aware of our existance.
> > > > We will have a decent start if WOTC decides to contract for a Greyhawk
> > > > CD-ROM akin to that being done for the Forgotten Realms.
> > > >
> > > > What does this have with DQ? How much interest would there be in
> > > > helping out in doing conversions of Greyhawk moducles and accessories to
> > > > DQ stats? Alot of things have to fall into place for this to happen.
> > > > This would take quite a bit of effort from individuals who have Greyhawk
> > > > materials and can work in PDF format.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lonny
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >
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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:10 AM, D. Cameron King <monarchy2000@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

No, shortly after that post I went through a major life-changing event and I haven't played DQ since. When I did get back into gaming, 3rd edition D&D cast a Ritual of Binding Will (37Q-1) on me, and I have been its hapless slave ever since.

 
-Cameron
 
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com

> From: brockrwood@eurekais.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:19:36 +0000

> Subject: [DQN-list] Re: First Thread
>
> Scary, isn't it? :)
>
> Still running that DragonQuest campaign using Greyhawk?
>
> - Brock
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "D. Cameron King" <monarchy2000@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Man, it feels weird to see something I wrote over 10 years ago. The Internet really doesn't forget!
> >
> >
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: brockrwood@...
> > > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:32:31 +0000
> > > Subject: [DQN-list] Re: First Thread
> > >
> > > OK, here is a long-shot: I am replying to message posted to the group in 1999!
> > >
> > > Like D. Cameron King (see below), I GM DragonQuest using the World of Greyhawk campaign setting map. In fact, we still use original 1980 map in our game play (we are careful not to spill anything on it!).
> > >
> > > I use the place names and geography from the map and everything else (with a very few execeptions) is home-brewed by me.
> > >
> > > I have looked at some old Judges Guild modules that were designed to work with D&D and AD&D. I would like to borrow some of the good ideas in those modules, including interesting NPC's.
> > >
> > > Has anyone created a formalized system for converting a D&D or AD&D character's stats to DragonQuest? Even a simple nuermical conversion table, such as "an 18 strength in D&D = a 21 strength in DragonQuest" would be helpful.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any help you can render in helping me keep DragonQuest alive and well!
> > >
> > > - Brock
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Lonny Eckert <leckert@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > D. Cameron King wrote:
> > > > > I'm running my current campaign in the World of Greyhawk. I
> > > > > do not use CC2. I chose Greyhawk because I've converted a large
> > > > > number of old AD&D adventures for use with DQ, and rather than
> > > > > try to fit them into the Frontiers of Alusia, I decided to just
> > > > > tweak Greyhawk. It works pretty well.
> > > >
> > > > Jason Winter wrote:
> > > > > I am also a CC2/DD2 user. Am currently working on the FR Atlas project
> > > > > just because I had a bit of free time on my hands and it sounded like a
> > > > > good excuse to make myself take the time to learn how to use CC2.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I work with a small group of folks working on rendering Greyhawk
> > > > maps in CC2. Both ProFantasy and WOTC/TSR are aware of our existance.
> > > > We will have a decent start if WOTC decides to contract for a Greyhawk
> > > > CD-ROM akin to that being done for the Forgotten Realms.
> > > >
> > > > What does this have with DQ? How much interest would there be in
> > > > helping out in doing conversions of Greyhawk moducles and accessories to
> > > > DQ stats? Alot of things have to fall into place for this to happen.
> > > > This would take quite a bit of effort from individuals who have Greyhawk
> > > > materials and can work in PDF format.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lonny
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/dqn-list
> > > > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Larry Freeman <larry.d.freeman@...> wrote:
>
> Being young, i dont know anything else by SPI what are some and links or
> something so i can check them out. Please
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Jeffery K. McGonagill <igmod@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > War in Europe and War in the Pacific were my favorites.
> >
> > Fantasy Games: Sword and Sorcery, Sorcerer, Ragarok, War of the Ring,
> > Albion, John Carter Warlord of Mars, Barbarian Kings.
> >
> > History Games: Highway to the Reich, Atlantic Wall, Austerlitz: Battle of
> > the Three Emperors, various Blue&Gray games, PRESTAGS Masterpack.
> >
> > Sci-Fi: Creature That Ate Sheboygan, Starforce: Alpha Centauri, Outreach,
> > Wreck of the B.S.M. Pandora, Voyage of the B.S.M. Pandora.
> >
> > All of these are part of my collection. I lost a few games in a divorce,
> > gave my nephews some.
> >
> > ~Jeffery~
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "shawng" <shawn4186@... <shawn4186%40msn.com>>
> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com <dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:02 PM
> > Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> >
> > > Yes - excellent point. The surveys in the back of ARES gave alot of info
> > > on what they were think about doing and what could have been.
> > > This from ARES #5 November 1980 relating to DQ:
> > > - Creating wilderness adventure
> > > - Creating urban adventures
> > > - Randomized Dungeon kit
> > > - Handbook of advanced skills
> > > - Castle building and estate management
> > > if you want the full description I can type them up.
> > > I don't dont remember there being anything in Moves magazine, which was
> > > more about historical "real life" wars and battles, but sometimes they
> > had
> > > some extra stuff about fantasy - I know I have two Moves magazines where
> > > they talked about Death Maze and Citadel of blood.
> > >
> > > By the way what other SPI games did you play?
> > >
> > > Anyone ever play Air War?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com <dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com>, "Jeffery
> > K. McGonagill" <igmod@>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Back in the day I was a SPI fan. In one of their magazine surveys they
> > >> asked if anyone was interested in an army combat simulation (aka game)
> > >> for
> > >> DQ. I don't know if any research had been done on the idea.
> > >>
> > >> ~Jeffery~
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Bob" <bobconstans@>
> > >> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com <dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > >> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:05 AM
> > >> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I seem to recall hearing somewhere that everything that could be leaked
> > &
> > >> scrounged up by the designers in regards to DQ had been "set free" some
> > >> time
> > >> after SPI fell to TSR - not so much as a revenge but as a courtesy to
> > the
> > >> gamers and with pride by the designers. They were universally regarded
> > as
> > >> the top designers in the field and respected as such. A great bunch of
> > >> guys
> > >> happy to encourage any "afterlife" of DQ. But who knows - there could be
> > >> more turned up with time or memory. As Geoff says, Absolutely can't hurt
> >
> > >> to
> > >> ask. If nothing else, they'd probably appreciate kowing that they still
> > >> have
> > >> fans.
> > >>
> > >> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com <dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoff
> > Berman <geoffberman2000@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Any chance you could ask him? :-) and I'd willing to take scans or
> > >> > copies
> > >> > :-D lol
> > >> >
> > >> > --- On Sun, 2/28/10, viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > From: viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> > >> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com <dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:28 PM
> > >> >
> > >> > But I have no idea whether he still has any DQ materials, or if he
> > did,
> > >> > whether he has any interest in relinquishing them.
> > >> >
> > >> > V.
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: viktor.haag@
> > >> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:41
> > >> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com <dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> > >> >
> > >> > Neil Randall who did some playtesting of DQ (I believe) and later
> > >> > development for the James Bond RPG and GMT wargames is Prof Neil
> > >> > Randall
> > >> > at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada.
> > >> >
> > >> > V.
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Rodger Thorm <rthorm@>
> > >> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:06:57
> > >> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com <dqn-list%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > >> > Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> > >> >
> > >> > We had some contact with Gerald Klug (who now goes by 'Chris' although
> > >> > he's not the snowboarding Chris Klug) for the DragonQuest Newsletter.
> > >> > And, there have been other accounts of other groups getting in touch
> > >> > with members of the DQ team that are similar in describing their
> > >> > accessibility and graciousness. I think they were a good group, and
> > >> > it's too bad they haven't received more recognition.
> > >> >
> > >> > It can seem a bit odd to be a fanboy of someone else's work, but,
> > >> > having
> > >> > received a couple of congratulations for my non-pseudonymous work out
> > >> > in
> > >> > the real world, I can say from my own perspective that it's wonderful
> > >> > to
> > >> > have someone appreciate work you have done, and I expect they are
> > >> > heartened by the occasional ping from one of us reminding them that
> > >> > some
> > >> > of us still love work they produced over a quarter century ago.
> > >> >
> > >> > -- Rodger
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ------------------------------------
> > >> >
> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@...> wrote:
>
> War in Europe and War in the Pacific were my favorites.
>
> Fantasy Games: Sword and Sorcery, Sorcerer, Ragarok, War of the Ring,
> Albion, John Carter Warlord of Mars, Barbarian Kings.
>
> History Games: Highway to the Reich, Atlantic Wall, Austerlitz: Battle of
> the Three Emperors, various Blue&Gray games, PRESTAGS Masterpack.
>
> Sci-Fi: Creature That Ate Sheboygan, Starforce: Alpha Centauri, Outreach,
> Wreck of the B.S.M. Pandora, Voyage of the B.S.M. Pandora.
>
> All of these are part of my collection. I lost a few games in a divorce,
> gave my nephews some.
>
> ~Jeffery~
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shawng" <shawn4186@...>
> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:02 PM
> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
>
>
> > Yes - excellent point. The surveys in the back of ARES gave alot of info
> > on what they were think about doing and what could have been.
> > This from ARES #5 November 1980 relating to DQ:
> > - Creating wilderness adventure
> > - Creating urban adventures
> > - Randomized Dungeon kit
> > - Handbook of advanced skills
> > - Castle building and estate management
> > if you want the full description I can type them up.
> > I don't dont remember there being anything in Moves magazine, which was
> > more about historical "real life" wars and battles, but sometimes they had
> > some extra stuff about fantasy - I know I have two Moves magazines where
> > they talked about Death Maze and Citadel of blood.
> >
> > By the way what other SPI games did you play?
> >
> > Anyone ever play Air War?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Back in the day I was a SPI fan. In one of their magazine surveys they
> >> asked if anyone was interested in an army combat simulation (aka game)
> >> for
> >> DQ. I don't know if any research had been done on the idea.
> >>
> >> ~Jeffery~
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bob" <bobconstans@>
> >> To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:05 AM
> >> Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> >>
> >>
> >> I seem to recall hearing somewhere that everything that could be leaked &
> >> scrounged up by the designers in regards to DQ had been "set free" some
> >> time
> >> after SPI fell to TSR - not so much as a revenge but as a courtesy to the
> >> gamers and with pride by the designers. They were universally regarded as
> >> the top designers in the field and respected as such. A great bunch of
> >> guys
> >> happy to encourage any "afterlife" of DQ. But who knows - there could be
> >> more turned up with time or memory. As Geoff says, Absolutely can't hurt
> >> to
> >> ask. If nothing else, they'd probably appreciate kowing that they still
> >> have
> >> fans.
> >>
> >> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Berman <geoffberman2000@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Any chance you could ask him? :-) and I'd willing to take scans or
> >> > copies
> >> > :-D lol
> >> >
> >> > --- On Sun, 2/28/10, viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: viktor.haag@ <viktor.haag@>
> >> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> >> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:28 PM
> >> >
> >> > But I have no idea whether he still has any DQ materials, or if he did,
> >> > whether he has any interest in relinquishing them.
> >> >
> >> > V.
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: viktor.haag@
> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:27:41
> >> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> >> >
> >> > Neil Randall who did some playtesting of DQ (I believe) and later
> >> > development for the James Bond RPG and GMT wargames is Prof Neil
> >> > Randall
> >> > at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada.
> >> >
> >> > V.
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Rodger Thorm <rthorm@>
> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:06:57
> >> > To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Subject: [DQN-list] SPI's Designers (was: Re: Eric Goldberg)
> >> >
> >> > We had some contact with Gerald Klug (who now goes by 'Chris' although
> >> > he's not the snowboarding Chris Klug) for the DragonQuest Newsletter.
> >> > And, there have been other accounts of other groups getting in touch
> >> > with members of the DQ team that are similar in describing their
> >> > accessibility and graciousness. I think they were a good group, and
> >> > it's too bad they haven't received more recognition.
> >> >
> >> > It can seem a bit odd to be a fanboy of someone else's work, but,
> >> > having
> >> > received a couple of congratulations for my non-pseudonymous work out
> >> > in
> >> > the real world, I can say from my own perspective that it's wonderful
> >> > to
> >> > have someone appreciate work you have done, and I expect they are
> >> > heartened by the occasional ping from one of us reminding them that
> >> > some
> >> > of us still love work they produced over a quarter century ago.
> >> >
> >> > -- Rodger
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
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> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
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> >>
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> >
> >
> >
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Rodger Thorm <rthorm@...> wrote:
>
> Developing a large-scale combat system for DQ was a topic that generated
> a lengthy discussion some time ago. I think at the time I was
> advocating for the SPI's PRESTAGS (Pre-Seventeenth Century Tactical Game
> System, I think, is what the name stands for).
>
> There are two factors I see that strongly favor using it. One, it uses
> SPI rules. If you're familiar with SPI's style (and, as a DQ player,
> you're familiar with it at least to some extent), then it's already
> organized in a familiar fashion.
>
> Two, it incorporates factors that could readily be transposed with
> existing DQ rules. Leaders are separate pieces, and the leadership
> factor could simply represent a character's Military Science rank. So
> there's a certain amount of dovetailing of system rules with DQ rules.
>
> It's been several years since I looked at PRESTAGS (there were six games
> in the series, and I think I have copies of the last two, Viking and
> Yeoman).
>
> Alternatively, other DQ players have come up with other systems. I
> think I have some drafts of things that may not be in wide circulation
> that I can re-post. I've recently fired up my old, old Mac (to copy
> over old files so I can finally get it cleared out of my basement) and
> have found a bunch of old DQ-related files I'd thought were lost. As I
> get time to sort through and see what's there, I'll be sure to post
> anything mass combat related if there is any interest.
>
> -- Rodger
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodger Thorm" <rthorm@cornellbox.com>
To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: [DQN-list] DQ Mass Combat & SPI Games


> Developing a large-scale combat system for DQ was a topic that generated
> a lengthy discussion some time ago. I think at the time I was
> advocating for the SPI's PRESTAGS (Pre-Seventeenth Century Tactical Game
> System, I think, is what the name stands for).
>
> There are two factors I see that strongly favor using it. One, it uses
> SPI rules. If you're familiar with SPI's style (and, as a DQ player,
> you're familiar with it at least to some extent), then it's already
> organized in a familiar fashion.
>
> Two, it incorporates factors that could readily be transposed with
> existing DQ rules. Leaders are separate pieces, and the leadership
> factor could simply represent a character's Military Science rank. So
> there's a certain amount of dovetailing of system rules with DQ rules.
>
> It's been several years since I looked at PRESTAGS (there were six games
> in the series, and I think I have copies of the last two, Viking and
> Yeoman).
>
> Alternatively, other DQ players have come up with other systems. I
> think I have some drafts of things that may not be in wide circulation
> that I can re-post. I've recently fired up my old, old Mac (to copy
> over old files so I can finally get it cleared out of my basement) and
> have found a bunch of old DQ-related files I'd thought were lost. As I
> get time to sort through and see what's there, I'll be sure to post
> anything mass combat related if there is any interest.
>
> -- Rodger
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> From: brockrwood@eurekais.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:19:36 +0000
> Subject: [DQN-list] Re: First Thread
>
> Scary, isn't it? :)
>
> Still running that DragonQuest campaign using Greyhawk?
>
> - Brock
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "D. Cameron King" <monarchy2000@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Man, it feels weird to see something I wrote over 10 years ago. The Internet really doesn't forget!
> >
> >
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: brockrwood@...
> > > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:32:31 +0000
> > > Subject: [DQN-list] Re: First Thread
> > >
> > > OK, here is a long-shot: I am replying to message posted to the group in 1999!
> > >
> > > Like D. Cameron King (see below), I GM DragonQuest using the World of Greyhawk campaign setting map. In fact, we still use original 1980 map in our game play (we are careful not to spill anything on it!).
> > >
> > > I use the place names and geography from the map and everything else (with a very few execeptions) is home-brewed by me.
> > >
> > > I have looked at some old Judges Guild modules that were designed to work with D&D and AD&D. I would like to borrow some of the good ideas in those modules, including interesting NPC's.
> > >
> > > Has anyone created a formalized system for converting a D&D or AD&D character's stats to DragonQuest? Even a simple nuermical conversion table, such as "an 18 strength in D&D = a 21 strength in DragonQuest" would be helpful.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any help you can render in helping me keep DragonQuest alive and well!
> > >
> > > - Brock
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Lonny Eckert <leckert@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > D. Cameron King wrote:
> > > > > I'm running my current campaign in the World of Greyhawk. I
> > > > > do not use CC2. I chose Greyhawk because I've converted a large
> > > > > number of old AD&D adventures for use with DQ, and rather than
> > > > > try to fit them into the Frontiers of Alusia, I decided to just
> > > > > tweak Greyhawk. It works pretty well.
> > > >
> > > > Jason Winter wrote:
> > > > > I am also a CC2/DD2 user. Am currently working on the FR Atlas project
> > > > > just because I had a bit of free time on my hands and it sounded like a
> > > > > good excuse to make myself take the time to learn how to use CC2.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I work with a small group of folks working on rendering Greyhawk
> > > > maps in CC2. Both ProFantasy and WOTC/TSR are aware of our existance.
> > > > We will have a decent start if WOTC decides to contract for a Greyhawk
> > > > CD-ROM akin to that being done for the Forgotten Realms.
> > > >
> > > > What does this have with DQ? How much interest would there be in
> > > > helping out in doing conversions of Greyhawk moducles and accessories to
> > > > DQ stats? Alot of things have to fall into place for this to happen.
> > > > This would take quite a bit of effort from individuals who have Greyhawk
> > > > materials and can work in PDF format.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lonny
> > > >
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ted" <tmckelvey77089@...> wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in seeing anything you find...
>
> Should we put them in a separate folder in the FILES section?
>
> Ted
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Rodger Thorm <rthorm@> wrote:
> >
> > Developing a large-scale combat system for DQ was a topic that generated
> > a lengthy discussion some time ago. I think at the time I was
> > advocating for the SPI's PRESTAGS (Pre-Seventeenth Century Tactical Game
> > System, I think, is what the name stands for).
> >
> > There are two factors I see that strongly favor using it. One, it uses
> > SPI rules. If you're familiar with SPI's style (and, as a DQ player,
> > you're familiar with it at least to some extent), then it's already
> > organized in a familiar fashion.
> >
> > Two, it incorporates factors that could readily be transposed with
> > existing DQ rules. Leaders are separate pieces, and the leadership
> > factor could simply represent a character's Military Science rank. So
> > there's a certain amount of dovetailing of system rules with DQ rules.
> >
> > It's been several years since I looked at PRESTAGS (there were six games
> > in the series, and I think I have copies of the last two, Viking and
> > Yeoman).
> >
> > Alternatively, other DQ players have come up with other systems. I
> > think I have some drafts of things that may not be in wide circulation
> > that I can re-post. I've recently fired up my old, old Mac (to copy
> > over old files so I can finally get it cleared out of my basement) and
> > have found a bunch of old DQ-related files I'd thought were lost. As I
> > get time to sort through and see what's there, I'll be sure to post
> > anything mass combat related if there is any interest.
> >
> > -- Rodger
> >
>