>
> <http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Dramus>
> http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Dramus is my longest

> character at 16 years and he gets played pretty much continuously.
>
> His items and writeups are mostly online along with other details.
>
> Mandos
> /s
>
>
> _____
>
> From: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dqn-list@yahoogroups.com] On

> Of co_d16
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 2:17 p.m.
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DQN-list] PC's
>
>
>
> Would any one put their PC in the PC Record folder so I can have a

> I want to see what other DM's are like and what kinda PC's players

> to play
>
> cody mills
>

In my campaign there is a group of four NPC Elemental Mages who have joined together (with the permission of the Mage Guild) to establish a learning enclave (school, college, university, whatever you want to call it).

A PC has shown interest in their locating their enclave in his Duchy.

I've asked another player to act in the interests of a nearby City-State.

I am also asking for what anyone on the list who has a character who has a say in a government to also make incentive offers to encourage their locating their enclave in their area.

Thanks to all who participate in this excercise.

~Jeffery~

> Also, does anyone know if Perry Cooper was one of the authors
> of?Arcane Wisdom.

I don't think that's accurate.  Here's my numbers:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a Titan with PS 80 (because of the spell), that's 65/3 = +21.  The total damage modifier is D+17.  The average would be 22-23 points of damage.

Now let's look at his sword.  We'll give him a run-of-the-mill broadsword, which does D+4.  However, the rules state that weapon does four times normal damage after modification.  The average result of the roll will be in the 9-10 range.  Multiply that by four, and you get 36-40 points of damage!

He's deadlier with his sword.

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>           > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos
> /s
>

> Can anyone that has made new spellslcollage for the game that ate not
> in the book put them on here please trying to new ways to challenge th
> PC's I run for it's always fun to see their faces when something
> happens and they don't know hpw it was done

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "co_d16" <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone that has made new spellslcollage for the game that ate not
> in the book put them on here please trying to new ways to challenge
th
> PC's I run for it's always fun to see their faces when something
> happens and they don't know hpw it was done
>
> cody mills
>

I don't think that's accurate.  Here's my numbers:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a Titan with PS 80 (because of the spell), that's 65/3 = +21.  The total damage modifier is D+17.  The average would be 22-23 points of damage.

Now let's look at his sword.  We'll give him a run-of-the-mill broadsword, which does D+4.  However, the rules state that weapon does four times normal damage after modification.  The average result of the roll will be in the 9-10 range.  Multiply that by four, and you get 36-40 points of damage!

He's deadlier with his sword.

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>           > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos
> /s
>

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I forgot about the min four to their DM when I posted that but a broad sword that is for times the size would do a D+16 not a D+36-40 where did you get that number from

 

cody mills

Ran Hardin <dantalion64@excite.com> wrote:

I don't think that's accurate.  Here's my numbers:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a Titan with PS 80 (because of the spell), that's 65/3 = +21.  The total damage modifier is D+17.  The average would be 22-23 points of damage.

Now let's look at his sword.  We'll give him a run-of-the-mill broadsword, which does D+4.  However, the rules state that weapon does four times normal damage after modification.  The average result of the roll will be in the 9-10 range.  Multiply that by four, and you get 36-40 points of damage!

He's deadlier with his sword.

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>           > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos
> /s
>

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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> I forgot about the min four to their DM when I posted that but a
broad sword that is for times the size would do a D+16 not a D+36-40
where did you get that number from
>
> cody mills
> Ran Hardin <dantalion64@...> wrote:
> I don't think that's accurate. Here's my numbers:
> Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4. You get +1 to damage for
every full 3 points of PS over 15. For a Titan with PS 80 (because
of the spell), that's 65/3 = +21. The total damage modifier is
D+17. The average would be 22-23 points of damage.
> Now let's look at his sword. We'll give him a run-of-the-mill
broadsword, which does D+4. However, the rules state that weapon
does four times normal damage after modification. The average
result of the roll will be in the 9-10 range. Multiply that by
four, and you get 36-40 points of damage!
> He's deadlier with his sword.
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills <co_d16@> wrote:
> >
> > Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there
fist dies more DM than their sword.
> >
> > cody mlls
> >
> > Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@> wrote:
> > > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+
PS which is very
> > > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh
of
> > > Stone rank 10+ -
> >
> > Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty
quickly, so
> > again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike
chances seem
> > to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty
of something
> > that large hitting a tiny target.
> >
> > Mandos
> > /s
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> Please re-read my post. I didn't say D+36-40. I
> said 36-40 *points
> of damage*.
>
> I calculated the damage based on this quote from DQ
> 2nd edition,
> Revised version 2.19, page 179: "Titans use human
> type weapons of 4
> times normal size (improve Base Chance by 20%,
> multiply damage by 4
> after modification)."
>
> To me, this means that after figuring the damage
> using the normal
> weapon damage modifier (for a broadsword, that's
> +4), you multiply
> the result by four ("...after modification"). So
> roll D10, add 4,
> then multiply the result by 4. The average range is
> 36-40 points of
> damage.
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills
> <co_d16@...> wrote:
> >
> > I forgot about the min four to their DM when I
> posted that but a
> broad sword that is for times the size would do a
> D+16 not a D+36-40
> where did you get that number from
> >
> > cody mills
> > Ran Hardin <dantalion64@...> wrote:
> > I don't think that's accurate. Here's
> my numbers:
> > Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4. You get +1
> to damage for
> every full 3 points of PS over 15. For a Titan with
> PS 80 (because
> of the spell), that's 65/3 = +21. The total damage
> modifier is
> D+17. The average would be 22-23 points of damage.
> > Now let's look at his sword. We'll give him a
> run-of-the-mill
> broadsword, which does D+4. However, the rules
> state that weapon
> does four times normal damage after modification.
> The average
> result of the roll will be in the 9-10 range.
> Multiply that by
> four, and you get 36-40 points of damage!
> > He's deadlier with his sword.
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills
> <co_d16@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my
> point is that there
> fist dies more DM than their sword.
> > >
> > > cody mlls
> > >
> > > Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@> wrote:
> > > > In my earlier post I ment to Say an
> NPC with a 80+
> PS which is very
> > > > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage
> that cast Strengh
> of
> > > > Stone rank 10+ -
> > >
> > > Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will
> probably die pretty
> quickly, so
> > > again the rules seem to simulate that quite
> well. If the strike
> chances seem
> > > to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate
> the difficulty
> of something
> > > that large hitting a tiny target.
> > >
> > > Mandos
> > > /s
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> one month of
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>
>
> I think your reading of the rules is quite correct in
> this matter. Indeed, I am struggling to see how it
> could be interpreted in any other way.
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Lev
>
> --- Ran Hardin <dantalion64@...> wrote:
>
> > Please re-read my post. I didn't say D+36-40. I
> > said 36-40 *points
> > of damage*.
> >
> > I calculated the damage based on this quote from DQ
> > 2nd edition,
> > Revised version 2.19, page 179: "Titans use human
> > type weapons of 4
> > times normal size (improve Base Chance by 20%,
> > multiply damage by 4
> > after modification)."
> >
> > To me, this means that after figuring the damage
> > using the normal
> > weapon damage modifier (for a broadsword, that's
> > +4), you multiply
> > the result by four ("...after modification"). So
> > roll D10, add 4,
> > then multiply the result by 4. The average range is
> > 36-40 points of
> > damage.
> >
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills
> > <co_d16@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I forgot about the min four to their DM when I
> > posted that but a
> > broad sword that is for times the size would do a
> > D+16 not a D+36-40
> > where did you get that number from
> > >
> > > cody mills
> > > Ran Hardin <dantalion64@> wrote:
> > > I don't think that's accurate. Here's
> > my numbers:
> > > Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4. You get +1
> > to damage for
> > every full 3 points of PS over 15. For a Titan with
> > PS 80 (because
> > of the spell), that's 65/3 = +21. The total damage
> > modifier is
> > D+17. The average would be 22-23 points of damage.
> > > Now let's look at his sword. We'll give him a
> > run-of-the-mill
> > broadsword, which does D+4. However, the rules
> > state that weapon
> > does four times normal damage after modification.
> > The average
> > result of the roll will be in the 9-10 range.
> > Multiply that by
> > four, and you get 36-40 points of damage!
> > > He's deadlier with his sword.
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills
> > <co_d16@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my
> > point is that there
> > fist dies more DM than their sword.
> > > >
> > > > cody mlls
> > > >
> > > > Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@> wrote:
> > > > > In my earlier post I ment to Say an
> > NPC with a 80+
> > PS which is very
> > > > > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage
> > that cast Strengh
> > of
> > > > > Stone rank 10+ -
> > > >
> > > > Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will
> > probably die pretty
> > quickly, so
> > > > again the rules seem to simulate that quite
> > well. If the strike
> > chances seem
> > > > to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate
> > the difficulty
> > of something
> > > > that large hitting a tiny target.
> > > >
> > > > Mandos
> > > > /s
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you
> > one month of
> > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
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>
> Is this game officially dead, on indefinite hiatus, or something else?
>

>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ran Hardin" <dantalion64@> wrote:
> >
> > Is this game officially dead, on indefinite hiatus, or something

> >
>
> It's officially dead, as the publisher, which at this point would be
> Wizards of the Coast, isn't supporting the game at all. On the other
> hand there is lots of fan support, such as this group and most
> importantly the Dragon Quest Players Association.
>
> Dean
>

> 1b. Re: DQ Wiki game?
> Posted by: "Ran Hardin" dantalion64@excite.com kakashi64
> Date: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:12 am ((PDT))
>
> You must've missed the title of my post. :) I'm referring to the Wiki-
> based DQ game Thorm started awhile back. Hasn't been any postings
> since March, at which time he stated he was starting a new job.

Only because no one has bothered creating stats for a titans sword.

 

Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at bucket loads more damage.

 

Mandos

/s

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From: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:dqn- list@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of cody mills
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
To: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat

Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.

 

cody mlls

Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@allowed. to> wrote:

> In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> Stone rank 10+ -

Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
that large hitting a tiny target.

Mandos
/s

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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, Lev Lafayette <lev_lafayette@ ...>
wrote:
>
>
> I think your reading of the rules is quite correct in
> this matter. Indeed, I am struggling to see how it
> could be interpreted in any other way.
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Lev
>
> --- Ran Hardin <dantalion64@ ...> wrote:
>
> > Please re-read my post. I didn't say D+36-40. I
> > said 36-40 *points
> > of damage*.
> >
> > I calculated the damage based on this quote from DQ
> > 2nd edition,
> > Revised version 2.19, page 179: "Titans use human
> > type weapons of 4
> > times normal size (improve Base Chance by 20%,
> > multiply damage by 4
> > after modification) ."
> >
> > To me, this means that after figuring the damage
> > using the normal
> > weapon damage modifier (for a broadsword, that's
> > +4), you multiply
> > the result by four ("...after modification" ). So
> > roll D10, add 4,
> > then multiply the result by 4. The average range is
> > 36-40 points of
> > damage.
> >
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills
> > <co_d16@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I forgot about the min four to their DM when I
> > posted that but a
> > broad sword that is for times the size would do a
> > D+16 not a D+36-40
> > where did you get that number from
> > >
> > > cody mills
> > > Ran Hardin <dantalion64@ > wrote:
> > > I don't think that's accurate. Here's
> > my numbers:
> > > Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4. You get +1
> > to damage for
> > every full 3 points of PS over 15. For a Titan with
> > PS 80 (because
> > of the spell), that's 65/3 = +21. The total damage
> > modifier is
> > D+17. The average would be 22-23 points of damage.
> > > Now let's look at his sword. We'll give him a
> > run-of-the-mill
> > broadsword, which does D+4. However, the rules
> > state that weapon
> > does four times normal damage after modification.
> > The average
> > result of the roll will be in the 9-10 range.
> > Multiply that by
> > four, and you get 36-40 points of damage!
> > > He's deadlier with his sword.
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills
> > <co_d16@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my
> > point is that there
> > fist dies more DM than their sword.
> > > >
> > > > cody mlls
> > > >
> > > > Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@> wrote:
> > > > > In my earlier post I ment to Say an
> > NPC with a 80+
> > PS which is very
> > > > > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage
> > that cast Strengh
> > of
> > > > > Stone rank 10+ -
> > > >
> > > > Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will
> > probably die pretty
> > quickly, so
> > > > again the rules seem to simulate that quite
> > well. If the strike
> > chances seem
> > > > to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate
> > the difficulty
> > of something
> > > > that large hitting a tiny target.
> > > >
> > > > Mandos
> > > > /s
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> Dead overstates it; after all, there are very few
> one-hit kills in DQ.
>
> Let's say, rather, that starting a new job was an
> Endurance hit on my
> available free time and I'm trying to recover from
> Stun.
>
> Hopefully I'll be able to pay a little attention to
> it in a week or two.
>
>
> Rodger
>
>
> > 1b. Re: DQ Wiki game?
> > Posted by: "Ran Hardin" dantalion64@excite.com
> kakashi64
> > Date: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:12 am ((PDT))
> >
> > You must've missed the title of my post. :) I'm
> referring to the Wiki-
> > based DQ game Thorm started awhile back. Hasn't
> been any postings
> > since March, at which time he stated he was
> starting a new job.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.  Here's why:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a titan with a PS of 85 (due to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by three – only his PS over 15).

The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.

And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon than a titan.  Why?  Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty (36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I calculated in an earlier post).  Two hits will wipe out most adventurers every time.  Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!) points of damage.  Good luck.)  Third, they know all magic of whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on how vindictive your GM is, that "and above" part could get seriously ugly.  Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance! 

Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?"  :D

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
>
>   cody mills
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>             Only because no one has bothered creating stats for a titans sword.
>   
>   Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at bucket loads more damage.
>   
>   Mandos
>   /s
>
>      
> ---------------------------------
>   From: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dqn-list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
>
>
>  
>       Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>       > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ran Hardin" <dantalion64@excite.com>

The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.  Here's why:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a titan with a PS of 85 (due to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by three � only his PS over 15).

The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.

And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon than a titan.  Why?  Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty (36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I calculated in an earlier post).  Two hits will wipe out most adventurers every time.  Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!) points of damage.  Good luck.)  Third, they know all magic of whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on how vindictive your GM is, that "and above" part could get seriously ugly.  Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance! 

Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?"  :D

 

 

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
>
>   cody mills
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>             Only because no one has bothered creating stats for a titans sword.
>   
>   Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at bucket loads more damage.
>   
>   Mandos
>   /s
>
>      
> ---------------------------------
>   From: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dqn-list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
>
>
>  
>       Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>       > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos

The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.  Here's why:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a titan with a PS of 85 (due to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by three – only his PS over 15).

The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.

And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon than a titan.  Why?  Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty (36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I calculated in an earlier post).  Two hits will wipe out most adventurers every time.  Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!) points of damage.  Good luck.)  Third, they know all magic of whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on how vindictive your GM is, that "and above" part could get seriously ugly.  Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance! 

Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?"  :D

 

 

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
>
>   cody mills
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>             Only because no one has bothered creating stats for a titans sword.
>   
>   Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at bucket loads more damage.
>   
>   Mandos
>   /s
>
>      
> ------------ --------- --------- ---
>   From: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:dqn- list@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
>
>
>  
>       Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>       > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos

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IMO, the Dragon with a PS around 300 does a minimum of D+91 (plus whatever add'l damage their claws provide, +12?) for a total of D+103.  Base Chance is increased by about 285% (using close combat rules; IMO if a dragon can hit you, it is in close combat).

 

Then there are the flames, wings, multiple strikes, spells of their college in the 15+ range

 

~Jeffery~

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: "Ran Hardin" <dantalion64@ excite.com>

The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.  Here's why:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a titan with a PS of 85 (due to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by three – only his PS over 15).

The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.

And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon than a titan.  Why?  Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty (36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I calculated in an earlier post).  Two hits will wipe out most adventurers every time.  Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!) points of damage.  Good luck.)  Third, they know all magic of whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on how vindictive your GM is, that "and above" part could get seriously ugly.  Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance! 

Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?"  :D

 

 

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
>
>   cody mills
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>             Only because no one has bothered creating stats for a titans sword.
>   
>   Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at bucket loads more damage.
>   
>   Mandos
>   /s
>
>      
> ------------ --------- --------- ---
>   From: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:dqn- list@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
>
>
>  
>       Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>       > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos

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-------------- Original message --------------
From: cody mills <co_d16@yahoo.com>

Can dragon use their PS with their claws if so how is it done

 

cody mills

igmod@comcast.net wrote:

IMO, the Dragon with a PS around 300 does a minimum of D+91 (plus whatever add'l damage their claws provide, +12?) for a total of D+103.  Base Chance is increased by about 285% (using close combat rules; IMO if a dragon can hit you, it is in close combat).

 

Then there are the flames, wings, multiple strikes, spells of their college in the 15+ range

 

~Jeffery~

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: "Ran Hardin" <dantalion64@ excite.com>

The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.  Here's why:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a titan with a PS of 85 (due to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by three � only his PS over 15).

The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.

And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon than a titan.  Why?  Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty (36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I calculated in an earlier post).  Two hits will wipe out most adventurers every time.  Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!) points of damage.  Good luck.)  Third, they know all magic of whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on how vindictive your GM is, that "and above" part could get seriously ugly.  Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance! 

Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?"  :D

 

 

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
>
>   cody mills
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>             Only because no one has bothered creating stats for a titans sword.
>   
>   Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at bucket loads more damage.
>   
>   Mandos
>   /s
>
>      
> ------------ --------- --------- ---
>   From: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:dqn- list@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
>
>
>  
>       Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>       > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos

 

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As mentioned earlier, I consider dragon combat to be close combat, for the dragon anyway.  Just figure things out as if the dragon was in close combat, then add in the modifier for their claws.

 

~Jeffery~

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: cody mills <co_d16@yahoo. com>

Can dragon use their PS with their claws if so how is it done

 

cody mills

igmod@comcast. net wrote:

IMO, the Dragon with a PS around 300 does a minimum of D+91 (plus whatever add'l damage their claws provide, +12?) for a total of D+103.  Base Chance is increased by about 285% (using close combat rules; IMO if a dragon can hit you, it is in close combat).

 

Then there are the flames, wings, multiple strikes, spells of their college in the 15+ range

 

~Jeffery~

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: "Ran Hardin" <dantalion64@ excite.com>

The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.  Here's why:

Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4.  You get +1 to damage for every full 3 points of PS over 15.  For a titan with a PS of 85 (due to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by three – only his PS over 15).

The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.

And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon than a titan.  Why?  Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty (36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I calculated in an earlier post).  Two hits will wipe out most adventurers every time.  Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!) points of damage.  Good luck.)  Third, they know all magic of whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on how vindictive your GM is, that "and above" part could get seriously ugly.  Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance! 

Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?"  :D

 

 

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, cody mills <co_d16@...> wrote:
>
> In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
>
>   cody mills
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>             Only because no one has bothered creating stats for a titans sword.
>   
>   Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at bucket loads more damage.
>   
>   Mandos
>   /s
>
>      
> ------------ --------- --------- ---
>   From: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:dqn- list@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
>
>
>  
>       Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that there fist dies more DM than their sword.
>   
>   cody mlls
>
> Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@...> wrote:
>       > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS which is very
> > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh of
> > Stone rank 10+ -
>
> Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty quickly, so
> again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike chances seem
> to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty of something
> that large hitting a tiny target.
>
> Mandos

 

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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, igmod@... wrote:
>
> IMO, the Dragon with a PS around 300 does a minimum of D+91 (plus
whatever add'l damage their claws provide, +12?) for a total of
D+103. Base Chance is increased by about 285% (using close combat
rules; IMO if a dragon can hit you, it is in close combat).
>
> Then there are the flames, wings, multiple strikes, spells of
their college in the 15+ range
>
> ~Jeffery~
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Ran Hardin" <dantalion64@...>
>
> The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.
Here's why:
> Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4. You get +1 to damage for
every full 3 points of PS over 15. For a titan with a PS of 85 (due
to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage
modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by
three – only his PS over 15).
> The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.
> And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon
than a titan. Why? Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty
(36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I
calculated in an earlier post). Two hits will wipe out most
adventurers every time. Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage
than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in
addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!)
points of damage. Good luck.) Third, they know all magic of
whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on
how vindictive your GM is, that "and above" part could get seriously
ugly. Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance!
> Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?" :D
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills <co_d16@> wrote:
> >
> > In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but
they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand
and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but
in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his
PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
> >
> > cody mills
> > Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@> wrote:
> > Only because no one has bothered creating stats for
a titans sword.
> >
> > Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and
the giants strength is only a few points more than a very strong
human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at
bucket loads more damage.
> >
> > Mandos
> > /s
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > From: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dqn-
list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
> >
> >
> >
> > Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that
there fist dies more DM than their sword.
> >
> > cody mlls
> >
> > Mandos Mitchinson <mandos@> wrote:
> > > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS
which is very
> > > easy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh
of
> > > Stone rank 10+ -
> >
> > Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty
quickly, so
> > again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike
chances seem
> > to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty
of something
> > that large hitting a tiny target.
> >
> > Mandos
>

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ran Hardin" <dantalion64@excite.com>

> Well, I *did* say "almost." :D
>
> I don't agree that any of a dragon's melee attacks should be given
> close combat bonuses, for several reasons.
>
> They're categorized as melee attacks in the introductory material in
> the Dragons section. Melee attack and close combat attack damage
> are specified in the listing for a particular creature, and also in
> the introductory notes for each category. To me, this means that
> the close combat rules are for humanoid characters and not non-
> humanoid figures, because close combat damage is specified in the
> listings. Why wouldn't they just calculate the damage range using
> potential PS modifiers, and use that instead?
>
> Now, it's true tha t close combat isn't mentioned anywhere in the
> dragons section, but I again surmise this to be a game-balance
> issue. While this may not be maximum realism, I think it's there to
> provide the PCs a minimal chance of success. Seriously, if you're
> playing them this way, what's the point of even figuring the damage?
> It's nice to give the PCs some chance at success. One-hit death
> monsters are no fun, especially if the party really thinks they have
> a chance to take a dragon on � it's no fun to be told "Splat! You're
> dead." Heck, that's one of the reasons I tossed aside D&D for DQ
> when it first came out.
>
> Further, if you apply close combat PS bonuses to all encountered
> creatures, many develop outrageous and unrealistic attacks. A
> quarter horse in close combat, for example, suddenly has a bite
> damage of D+9! Now, I've been bitten by a horse, and it's no fun,
& gt; but I'd rather take a bite from a horse than a hack from a two-
> handed sword (D+7).
>
> Another couple of examples:
>
> Elephant tusk attack: D+22 (D+28 if charging). Look, I know that
> elephants are big, but come on�
>
> Python squeeze attack: D+18. This means that a man in improved
> plate is going to take at a minimum 11 points of damage per attack.
>
> See what I'm saying? I'm quite sure the designers of the game did
> not intend for dragons to do D+103 with a claw attack.
>
> And in classic genre terms, dragons don't sit on people. :D They
> rear back and breathe fire, or stay in melee combat (or cast nasty
> spells).
>
> Now, if a dragon bumps into or runs over someone, there's rules for
> that, in the multi-hex rules. The target takes D+(size of monster
> in hexes).
>
> Anyway, I'm assuming that players in your games just run from
> dragons, right? :) Again, where's the fun in that?
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, igmod@... wrote:
> >
> > IMO, the Dragon with a PS around 300 does a minimum of D+91 (plus
> whatever add'l damage their claws provide, +12?) for a total of
> D+103. Base Chance is increased by about 285% (using close combat
> rules; IMO if a dragon can hit you, it is in close combat).
> >
> > Then there are the flames, wings, multiple strikes, spells of
> their college in the 15+ range
> >
> > ~Jeffery~
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Ran Hardin"
> >
> > The titan in your example has a total unarmed damage of D+19.
> Here's why:
> > Unarmed combat damage starts at D-4. You get +1 to damage for
> every full 3 points of PS over 15. For a tit an with a PS of 85 (due
> to the spell), this means he adds 70/3 = 23, for a total damage
> modifier of +19 (don't forget it's not his total PS divided by
> three � only his PS over 15).
> > The average damage total will be 24-25 points of damage.
> > And as far as Titan being BMF's, I'd almost rather face a dragon
> than a titan. Why? Well, first of all, their melee damage is nasty
> (36-40 points of damage on average with a broadsword, as I
> calculated in an earlier post). Two hits will wipe out most
> adventurers every time. Secondly, their aura absorbs more damage
> than most dragon scales, and they can wear armor, which functions in
> addition to their aura (a titan in Improved Plate absorbs twenty(!)
> points of damage. Good luck.) Third, they know all magic of
> whatever college they belong to at rank 10 and above. Depending on
> how vindictive your GM is, that "and above " part could get seriously
> ugly. Finally, they add forty to their magic resistance!
> > Did I mention the "numerous storm giant guards?" :D
> >
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, cody mills wrote:
> > >
> > > In the rule book it says there weapon do four time the DM but
> they need four time the PS so a titan with a PS of 68 useing a Hand
> and a half it would do 4D10+20, using his fist it would be +17, but
> in my example my NPC titan uses Strengh of stone RK 15 Makeing his
> PS 85 which puts his first DM at +23
> > >
> > > cody mills
> > > Mandos Mitchinson wrote:
> > > Only because no one has bothered creating stats for
> a titans sword.
> > >
> > > Assuming a Giants weapon does +2 or +3 more than normal and
> the giants strength is only a few points more than a v ery strong
> human a titan with 60 additional strength you would be looking at
> bucket loads more damage.
> > >
> > > Mandos
> > > /s
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > From: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dqn-
> list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cody mills
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 9:41 a.m.
> > > To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [DQN-list] Re: Unarmed Combat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Titans are not 50ft tall they are 24 but my point is that
> there fist dies more DM than their sword.
> > >
> > > cody mlls
> > >
> > > Mandos Mitchinson wrote:
> > > > In my earlier post I ment to Say an NPC with a 80+ PS
> which is very
> > > > ea sy when the bad guy is a Titan earth mage that cast Strengh
> of
> > > > Stone rank 10+ -
> > >
> > > Well if a chap 50ft tall hits you you will probably die pretty
> quickly, so
> > > again the rules seem to simulate that quite well. If the strike
> chances seem
> > > to high assign a GM modifier to them to simulate the difficulty
> of something
> > > that large hitting a tiny target.
> > >
> > > Mandos
> >
>
>
>
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> Greetings fellow FRPGers ^^
>
> i thought to mention a recent posting in the Yahoo
> News Group for
> our "cousin game" S.P.I. Universe.
>
> for any who may be interested..
>
> here is a link..
>
>
>

>
> Enjoy!
>
> - Greg W.
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> It would be rather like those Spacemaster/Rolemaster
> crossover games.

> Posted by: "Lev Lafayette"
> lev_lafayette@yahoo.com.au lev_lafayette
> > It would be rather like those
> Spacemaster/Rolemaster
> > crossover games.
>
> Which does not bode well AT ALL for this project....
> <rimshot>

> Having played (and now admitting that somewhat
> ashamedly) Rolemaster,
> and having owned it and Spacemaster, I'm not
> enamored with either of them.

> That had more to do with the crappy 'master system'
> mechanics than the
> idea of a Space-fantasy hybrid game.

>> It would be rather like those Spacemaster/Rolemaster
>> crossover games.

> Which does not bode well AT ALL for this project....
> <rimshot>
>
> Having played (and now admitting that somewhat ashamedly) Rolemaster,
> and having owned it and Spacemaster, I'm not enamored with either of them.
>
> That had more to do with the crappy 'master system' mechanics than the
> idea of a Space-fantasy hybrid game.
>
> I've played 'magical characters' in Traveller settings, and had fun in
> Arduin settings with 'Techno' artifacts. They can be a hoot.
>
> That being said, I wasn't too fond of Chaosium's mechanics from
> Runequest being forced onto the Ringworld setting - that really blew
> great hairy blue chunks (IMNSHO....).
>
> Sorry, but a Kzin ought to be able to chase down a slow herbivore
> without too much trouble - my character couldn't walk and chew bubble
> gum....and I'd put points into those things.
> :/

>>> It would be rather like those Spacemaster/Rolemaster
>>> crossover games. Which does not bode well AT ALL for
>>>this project.... <rimshot>

> Are you sure? Which crossover games did you play?

> Off the top of my head, there are two exceptional
> crossovers being..
>
> - The Dark Space campaign setting by Monte Cook which
> has an exceptional science-fantasy-horror theme
> throughout, and more so with the bio-cybernetic
> implants.
>
> - Death Game 2090, a Cyberspace scenario where the PCs
> are initially trapped within a "World of Warcraft"
> environment and must break out through asserting their
> will over the reality, as per the Matrix. This was
> written in 1990 I must point out
>
> One could also mention the occassional scenarios in
> some Spacemaster campaign books, such as House Devon
> in Crisis and maybe in the League of Merchants
> supplement as well. These weren't really crossovers
> insofar the magic-usinig characters were NPCs.
>
>> Having played (and now admitting that somewhat
>> ashamedly) Rolemaster,
>> and having owned it and Spacemaster, I'm not
>> enamored with either of them.
>
> YMMV :-)

>> That had more to do with the crappy 'master system'
>> mechanics than the
>> idea of a Space-fantasy hybrid game.
>
> The crappy mechanic being of course....
>
> Roll d100 (open-ended). Add bonuses, subract
> penalties. Total roll equals degree of
> failure/success.

> In any case the thread is about DragonQuest/Universe
> crossovers. To a small extent I have done this in the
> past, by using DQ in a science-fantasy environment,
> where the various Demons are actually an alien
> species. It worked just fine.

>
> greetings, all.
>
> it has been, perhaps, a few years since if posted anything.
>
> i have been playing Neverwinter Nights, on line. it is as good a

> that i know of (that is free).
>
> where i am working, now, i have hours and hours to spend, so im
> putting time into reprogramming the NeverWinter Nights game into

> lol
>
> it is a ludicrously monumental task - i am not realy any sort of
> programmer - it has been years since i did anything that may be of
> signigicance.
>
> anyhow, i downloaded various resources.. scripting stuff, etc.
>
> tho i did shudder at the thought of even mentioning this, i

> maybe, my attempt (likely to be futile) might inspire some/one of

> who are ~real~ programmers.
>
> i would guestimate that in a week or so, ill be able to figure out

> i should just give up and do something else.
>
> thoughts?
>
> - Greg W.
>

----- Original Message ----- .
From: "Greg Walters" <Greg_G_Walters@email.com>
To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: [DQN-list] Re:..program NWN into DQ ? ^~


> im entertaining myself with the idea of turning this D&D based game
> into DQ ^^ a slow start, but i think it is possible.. it might not
> be the best thing, but it is giving me something to do where im at
> (in a remote location..i can only use the internet while at work -
> even then, only for e-mail etc: no streaming anything, for the most
> part)..
>
> i dont know that ill ever finish it.. really, it may be arguable that
> i have even started it - im so new to the " 'C'-ish " stuff. in
> fact, i havent completed anything other than im just getting more and
> more familiar with how the program works.
>
> we'll see in a month.. i might make it a "father son" project (as my
> wife suggested) which will make it pretty cool. but i have to get
> ready to move when i get back home (2hr one-way drive to work is a
> killer^^)..
>
> so, whadda ya'll think?..
>
> (about my attempting this - that is, to reprogram NWN into DQ)
>
> ..futile, stupendous or something else?
>
> ;D
>
> - Greg W.
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Walters" <Greg_G_Walters@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> greetings, all.
>>
>> it has been, perhaps, a few years since if posted anything.
>>
>> i have been playing Neverwinter Nights, on line. it is as good a
> mmo
>> that i know of (that is free).
>>
>> where i am working, now, i have hours and hours to spend, so im
>> putting time into reprogramming the NeverWinter Nights game into
> DQ..
>> lol
>>
>> it is a ludicrously monumental task - i am not realy any sort of
>> programmer - it has been years since i did anything that may be of
>> signigicance.
>>
>> anyhow, i downloaded various resources.. scripting stuff, etc.
>>
>> tho i did shudder at the thought of even mentioning this, i
> thought,
>> maybe, my attempt (likely to be futile) might inspire some/one of
> you
>> who are ~real~ programmers.
>>
>> i would guestimate that in a week or so, ill be able to figure out
> if
>> i should just give up and do something else.
>>
>> thoughts?
>>
>> - Greg W.
>>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
From: Greg_G_Walters@email.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 03:20:18 +0000
Subject: [DQN-list] Re:..program NWN into DQ ? ^~

im entertaining myself with the idea of turning this D&D based game
into DQ ^^ a slow start, but i think it is possible.. it might not
be the best thing, but it is giving me something to do where im at
(in a remote location..i can only use the internet while at work -
even then, only for e-mail etc: no streaming anything, for the most
part)..

i dont know that ill ever finish it.. really, it may be arguable that
i have even started it - im so new to the " 'C'-ish " stuff. in
fact, i havent completed anything other than im just getting more and
more familiar with how the program works.

we'll see in a month.. i might make it a "father son" project (as my
wife suggested) which will make it pretty cool. but i have to get
ready to move when i get back home (2hr one-way drive to work is a
killer^^)..

so, whadda ya'll think?..

(about my attempting this - that is, to reprogram NWN into DQ)

..futile, stupendous or something else?

;D

- Greg W.


--- In dqn-list@yahoogroup s.com, "Greg Walters" <Greg_G_Walters@ ...>
wrote:
>
> greetings, all.
>
> it has been, perhaps, a few years since if posted anything.
>
> i have been playing Neverwinter Nights, on line. it is as good a
mmo
> that i know of (that is free).
>
> where i am working, now, i have hours and hours to spend, so im
> putting time into reprogramming the NeverWinter Nights game into
DQ..
> lol
>
> it is a ludicrously monumental task - i am not realy any sort of
> programmer - it has been years since i did anything that may be of
> signigicance.
>
> anyhow, i downloaded various resources.. scripting stuff, etc.
>
> tho i did shudder at the thought of even mentioning this, i
thought,
> maybe, my attempt (likely to be futile) might inspire some/one of
you
> who are ~real~ programmers.
>
> i would guestimate that in a week or so, ill be able to figure out
if
> i should just give up and do something else.
>
> thoughts?
>
> - Greg W.
>

---

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> I am new to this group and glad to be here. I have been GM'ing DQ
> since 1980, off and on, and currrently playing the game again. I am
> looking for a copy of DQ World Generation which was written by Steve
> Jackson for SPI, but not published. I am most interested in the rules
> for Group Arcane Magic and the rituals that were included for each
> College of Arcane Magic that were group castings. If anyone can assit
> me with this it would be appreciated.
>
> Rhiagwedd
>

>I've been collecting DQ for some time and played a little here and
>there. Just came across the group and thought it would be fun to join.
>
>A friend of mine wants to run DQ, something I have longed for lo these
>many years. He feels like the character generation is a little
>"simple-minded."
>
>I don't share his opinion, but I was wondering if someone could point
>me to some web resources that might flesh char gen out a bit more.
>
>Thanks!
>
>

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Jason Winter <JasonWinter@scicable.com> wrote:

> From: Jason Winter <JasonWinter@scicable.com>
> Subject: Re: [DQN-list] Hello! And a character generation question
> To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 12:24 AM
> If you want it fleshed out way more than you most likely
> want, check
> out my website. I ran a DQ game for close to 20 years
> (Been on hold
> sadly for about 3 years now) and there was a LOT of we
> added/changed
> over the years. Added a Skill system, Clerics/religions
> and made a
> lot of other changes. You can check it out at:
>
> http://portalkeepersofgrayrock.com/
>
>
> A lot of the changes made were because the game tends to
> break down
> at higher levels and I ran a campaign once for close to 4
> years where
> we played 5 days a week from 10:30pm to 6am.
>
>
> At 03:27 AM 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
>
>
> >I've been collecting DQ for some time and played a
> little here and
> >there. Just came across the group and thought it would
> be fun to join.
> >
> >A friend of mine wants to run DQ, something I have
> longed for lo these
> >many years. He feels like the character generation is a
> little
> >"simple-minded."
> >
> >I don't share his opinion, but I was wondering if
> someone could point
> >me to some web resources that might flesh char gen out
> a bit more.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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>
>

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Lev Lafayette <lev_lafayette@...> wrote:
>
> Awesome campaign!
>
> But just to comment on the original poster what is it that the find "simple minded" about
chargen?
>
> Is it a lack of character 'classes'? Do they want more personality characteristics? etc.
>
> In order to find a solution to their problem, we need to know what it is ;-)
>
> Best wishes,