Hullo, Marty,

In a message of February 6th, 2006, you wrote,Martin Gallo wrote:

> You are certainly welcome back.

Hey, Marty, thanks for the welcome back! Good to see you here
still. Nice to see some friendly faces.

> As has been mentioned, there has not been much activity. I still am
> not role playing and therefore have nothing to add.

Aww, that's a bummer for sure. Not gaming at all, or not
running/playing DRAGONQUEST these days?

--
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e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Cameron,

In a message of December 6th, 2006, you wrote,

>>(Hope some folks here still remember me, if nothing else.) :)
>
> I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers you, John.

Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here. I'm glad *someone*
remembers me.

> We're still here. It's just been quiet lately.

So I see. Kind of suprprising, but perhaps not...after all, how
much can one talk about a dead game system? <g>

So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?

--
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e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

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Dear John,

I don't think DQ is a "dead game". It still live when we play it.

At least, I playing two campains every 15 or 21 days. Well not since December (Here we're on Summer holidays). One set on Alusia, and the other on a "free setting".

I see that "radio silence" like a short "sabathic period". Let the people start to play again..., and the questions will came back..., like swallows at spring.

Best regards for all.

Gabriel.

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Asunto: Re: [DQN-list] Hello, and List Still Active?


Hullo, Cameron,

In a message of December 6th, 2006, you wrote,

>>(Hope some folks here still remember me, if nothing else.) :)
>
> I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers you, John.

Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here. I'm glad *someone*
remembers me.

> We're still here. It's just been quiet lately.

So I see. Kind of suprprising, but perhaps not...after all, how
much can one talk about a dead game system? <g>

So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane




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> So I see. Kind of suprprising, but perhaps not...after all, how
> much can one talk about a dead game system? <g>

It's dead? I'm still playing two nights a week :0) I think there is still a
slight pulse!

Mandos
/s

>From: John M Kahane <jkahane@comnet.ca>
>
> Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here. I'm glad *someone*
>remembers me.
>
> So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?

I'm afraid I've been pretty fully assimilated by 3rd Edition D&D. I haven't
run DQ since 1999, and doubt I ever will again. It still holds a special
place in my heart, but we've "grown apart," if you know what I mean. :)

I'm always happy to join in any discussions here on the listserv, though.

-Cameron

I'm still here and still a fan. I've been running a DQ campaign
since the mid 80's, although it's currently only played 4 or 5
weekends a year now sadly. About 4 months ago we started a PBEM game
using 2nd edition AD&D just for it's simplicity of use in
email. We've also recently discovered Fantasy Grounds and have
started running Online sessions weekly. I'm not a fan of 3rd edition
and so I never plan on running or playing a session of that
again. :-) To each his own they say!


At 07:03 PM 2/7/2006, you wrote:

>
>>From: John M Kahane <jkahane@comnet.ca>
>>
>> Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here. I'm glad *someone*
>>remembers me.
>>
>> So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?
>
>I'm afraid I've been pretty fully assimilated by 3rd Edition D&D. I haven't
>run DQ since 1999, and doubt I ever will again. It still holds a special
>place in my heart, but we've "grown apart," if you know what I mean. :)
>
>I'm always happy to join in any discussions here on the listserv, though.
>
>-Cameron
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

welcome back.

still playing DQ here in the UK once a week (last nite in fact). campaign is
nearing an ending then someone else will GM something else to give brain a
rest. Party has just discovered that dragons are in fact fallen/lost angels
(who became so enamoured of this world they couldnt leave it and where
tricked by demons who said they could give them an 'earthly form' so they
could stay here forever....)
As it is reaching its climax a problem has arisen. I have been using the
training guidleines, though a little less tight that suggested in the rules
(only 1 week per rank for a weapon or skill) and this is cauisng a dilema.
There are all sorts of factions on the move and stuff happening in the rest
of the world. It seems that party members need to take 8 weeks out to put
rank 8 in a weapon, and it could well be for example the campaign may well
be over by then, and ending without them!!. Even learning as they go as is
allowed under the rules, lots will happen and the party will not have time
to sepnd the xp.
One way out i have used thus far is that the dragons they have helped
remember that they are in fact angels have powers like a demon, in that time
in their presence speeds up gaining ranks in some skills and weapons, but i
cant do this all the time.

Do others stick to the training guidlines or just forget them?

JohnD

http://groups.msn.com/DragonquestMajesty/homepage

I stick to the training guidelines (with rare exceptions), but then my
campaigns are rarely epic.

~Jeffery~

> welcome back.
>
> still playing DQ here in the UK once a week (last nite in fact). campaign
> is
> nearing an ending then someone else will GM something else to give brain a
> rest. Party has just discovered that dragons are in fact fallen/lost
> angels
> (who became so enamoured of this world they couldnt leave it and where
> tricked by demons who said they could give them an 'earthly form' so they
> could stay here forever....)
> As it is reaching its climax a problem has arisen. I have been using the
> training guidleines, though a little less tight that suggested in the
> rules
> (only 1 week per rank for a weapon or skill) and this is cauisng a dilema.
> There are all sorts of factions on the move and stuff happening in the
> rest
> of the world. It seems that party members need to take 8 weeks out to put
> rank 8 in a weapon, and it could well be for example the campaign may
> well
> be over by then, and ending without them!!. Even learning as they go as is
> allowed under the rules, lots will happen and the party will not have time
> to sepnd the xp.
> One way out i have used thus far is that the dragons they have helped
> remember that they are in fact angels have powers like a demon, in that
> time
> in their presence speeds up gaining ranks in some skills and weapons, but
> i
> cant do this all the time.
>
> Do others stick to the training guidlines or just forget them?
>
> JohnD
>
> http://groups.msn.com/DragonquestMajesty/homepage
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

yeah, it sort of ran away from me a bit. the campaign has epic things going
on, but the characters are relative minnows (only 1 has even 4 'things' at
rank 8, and they are a few low xp spells).
nice change for the characters to be tiny fish in a very big ocean

JohnD

>From: "Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
>To: <dqn-list@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [DQN-list] welome back (traning and xp question)
>Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 06:37:37 -0800
>
>I stick to the training guidelines (with rare exceptions), but then my
>campaigns are rarely epic.
>
>~Jeffery~
>
> > welcome back.
> >
> > still playing DQ here in the UK once a week (last nite in fact).
>campaign
> > is
> > nearing an ending then someone else will GM something else to give brain
>a
> > rest. Party has just discovered that dragons are in fact fallen/lost
> > angels
> > (who became so enamoured of this world they couldnt leave it and where
> > tricked by demons who said they could give them an 'earthly form' so
>they
> > could stay here forever....)
> > As it is reaching its climax a problem has arisen. I have been using the
> > training guidleines, though a little less tight that suggested in the
> > rules
> > (only 1 week per rank for a weapon or skill) and this is cauisng a
>dilema.
> > There are all sorts of factions on the move and stuff happening in the
> > rest
> > of the world. It seems that party members need to take 8 weeks out to
>put
> > rank 8 in a weapon, and it could well be for example the campaign may
> > well
> > be over by then, and ending without them!!. Even learning as they go as
>is
> > allowed under the rules, lots will happen and the party will not have
>time
> > to sepnd the xp.
> > One way out i have used thus far is that the dragons they have helped
> > remember that they are in fact angels have powers like a demon, in that
> > time
> > in their presence speeds up gaining ranks in some skills and weapons,
>but
> > i
> > cant do this all the time.
> >
> > Do others stick to the training guidlines or just forget them?
> >
> > JohnD
> >
> > http://groups.msn.com/DragonquestMajesty/homepage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

The way I have always done it, is that if they are
using exp that they have gained durring the adventure
they can raise ranks with no training time (as long as
they used the skill durring the adventure) but if they
are using exp they have gained through practicing then
they must use the training time.

Clint.

--- davis john <jrd123@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> welcome back.
>
> still playing DQ here in the UK once a week (last
> nite in fact). campaign is
> nearing an ending then someone else will GM
> something else to give brain a
> rest. Party has just discovered that dragons are in
> fact fallen/lost angels
> (who became so enamoured of this world they couldnt
> leave it and where
> tricked by demons who said they could give them an
> 'earthly form' so they
> could stay here forever....)
> As it is reaching its climax a problem has arisen. I
> have been using the
> training guidleines, though a little less tight that
> suggested in the rules
> (only 1 week per rank for a weapon or skill) and
> this is cauisng a dilema.
> There are all sorts of factions on the move and
> stuff happening in the rest
> of the world. It seems that party members need to
> take 8 weeks out to put
> rank 8 in a weapon, and it could well be for
> example the campaign may well
> be over by then, and ending without them!!. Even
> learning as they go as is
> allowed under the rules, lots will happen and the
> party will not have time
> to sepnd the xp.
> One way out i have used thus far is that the dragons
> they have helped
> remember that they are in fact angels have powers
> like a demon, in that time
> in their presence speeds up gaining ranks in some
> skills and weapons, but i
> cant do this all the time.
>
> Do others stick to the training guidlines or just
> forget them?
>
> JohnD
>
> http://groups.msn.com/DragonquestMajesty/homepage
>
>
>

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Hullo, Mandos,

In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,

>> So I see. Kind of suprprising, but perhaps not...after all, how
>>much can one talk about a dead game system? <g>
>
> It's dead? I'm still playing two nights a week :0) I think there is still a
> slight pulse!

A bit more than a slight pulse, I suspect, even though there aren't
necessarily a lot of folks still running the game. More's the pity. :(
Glad to hear that various folks *are* still playing and running the
game...

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Jeffery,

In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,

> I have two three online threads, one in immediate care and a bi-weekly game.

I'm not sure what this means, exactly. Are you saying that you're
running DRAGONQUEST on-line? If so, where?

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Gabriel,

In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,

> I don't think DQ is a "dead game". It still live when we play it.

Oh, I know it's not dead in terms of people still playing the game,
I really meant "dead" as in the sense of not being published any longer.
That, and the fact that by saying it the way I did, I might spark a
conversation or two... <g>

> At least, I playing two campains every 15 or 21 days. Well not
>since December (Here we're on Summer holidays). One set on Alusia,
>and the other on a "free setting".

Yes, like you, I run two DRAGONQUEST campaigns, one set on Alusia,
the other in the world of Lyra (based on Patricia C. Wredes's books).

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, JohnD,

In a message of February 8th, 2006, you wrote,

> welcome back.

Thank you. Much appreciated. :) I remember you from back when I
was more active around here. It's good to see a few familiar faces here
on the list. :)

> still playing DQ here in the UK once a week (last nite in fact). campaign is
> nearing an ending then someone else will GM something else to give brain a
> rest.

Yes, that's always an important part of gaming from the GM point
of view - finding someone else to run a game of something is good for
revitalising a little bit, and getting creative again. Haven't had that
for a long time, myself, but someone in my gaming group is about to run
something soon, so I'm looking forward to that. :)

> Party has just discovered that dragons are in fact fallen/lost angels
> (who became so enamoured of this world they couldnt leave it and where
> tricked by demons who said they could give them an 'earthly form' so they
> could stay here forever....)

Neat! Interesting variant on the dragons and all. Have a similar,
somewhat different origin to them in my own campaign, borrowing heavily
on Patricia Wrede's _Lyra_ novels.

> As it is reaching its climax a problem has arisen. I have been using the
> training guidleines, though a little less tight that suggested in the rules
> (only 1 week per rank for a weapon or skill) and this is cauisng a dilema.
> There are all sorts of factions on the move and stuff happening in the rest
> of the world. It seems that party members need to take 8 weeks out to put
> rank 8 in a weapon, and it could well be for example the campaign may well
> be over by then, and ending without them!!. Even learning as they go as is
> allowed under the rules, lots will happen and the party will not have time
> to sepnd the xp.

<snip>

> Do others stick to the training guidlines or just forget them?

Yes, I stick to the training guidelines in the book, even though I
have been running a DQ campaign for the longest time now (on and off);
heck, even have players playing the children of their original
characters these days.

"So, Dad, we're thinking of going back to that Ontoncle place -
what can you tell us about it, since you and Mom have been there,
weren't you?" <g>

Anyway, the key to remember is that the DQ game world, whichever
one you happen to be running, is not static, and goes on around the
players and their characters. The training aspect of the game serves to
allow the GM to reinforce this fact of life, and can work wonders on a
group of players who think the world is static around them.

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Jason,

In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,

> I'm still here and still a fan. I've been running a DQ campaign
> since the mid 80's, although it's currently only played 4 or 5
> weekends a year now sadly.

Glad to hear this... I had started to wonder if there were any of
the real old-timers with the game still left around here. Some of us
have been playing the game since the beginning, and it's good to know
that these... epic ...campaigns still exist out there. :)

> About 4 months ago we started a PBEM game using 2nd edition AD&D
>just for it's simplicity of use in email.

On the subject of PBeM games, are there any DRAGONQUEST games going
on out there? If so, I would appreciate links and the like...

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Cameron,

In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,

>> Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here. I'm glad *someone*
>>remembers me.
>>
>> So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?
>
> I'm afraid I've been pretty fully assimilated by 3rd Edition D&D. I haven't
> run DQ since 1999, and doubt I ever will again. It still holds a special
> place in my heart, but we've "grown apart," if you know what I mean. :)

I'm sorry to hear this, Cameron, although I can't say that I'm all
that surprised, to be honest. I think that when rpgs don't have a
"face" out in the market, and when they don't have new material coming
out for them, they seep back into the woodwork and aren't seen a lot.
And players don't want to learn to play new systems very often, so...

Shame that the gaming group of yours won't go back to it... I seem
to recall that you had a good time with that game...

> I'm always happy to join in any discussions here on the listserv, though.

Glad to hear it. Need folks with experience in the game to discuss
things with, always. :)

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

I could post Astolfo's journal. Does someone have a good site to
host it on?

David

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, igmod@... wrote:
>
> Wow, newbies.
>
> In my current bi-weekly Friday game, one of the characters just
turned hero; another just attained Rank 5 Healer (with the aid of a
friendly NPC Greater Summoner.)
>
> Maybe David could be prevailed upon to post Astolfo's Journals to
the list. (I know he's lurking out there.)
>
> ~Jeffery~
>
> > yeah, it sort of ran away from me a bit. the campaign has epic
things going
> > on, but the characters are relative minnows (only 1 has even
4 'things' at
> > rank 8, and they are a few low xp spells).
> > nice change for the characters to be tiny fish in a very big
ocean
> >
> > JohnD
> >
> >
> > >From: "Jeffery K. McGonagill"
> > >Reply-To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: [DQN-list] welome back (traning and xp question)
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 06:37:37 -0800
> > >
> > >I stick to the training guidelines (with rare exceptions), but
then my
> > >campaigns are rarely epic.
> > >
> > >~Jeffery~
> > >
> > > > welcome back.
> > > >
> > > > still playing DQ here in the UK once a week (last nite in
fact).
> > >campaign
> > > > is
> > > > nearing an ending then someone else will GM something else
to give brain
> > >a
> > > > rest. Party has just discovered that dragons are in fact
fallen/lost
> > > > angels
> > > > (who became so enamoured of this world they couldnt leave it
and where
> > > > tricked by demons who said they could give them an 'earthly
form' so
> > >they
> > > > could stay here forever....)
> > > > As it is reaching its climax a problem has arisen. I have
been using the
> > > > training guidleines, though a little less tight that
suggested in the
> > > > rules
> > > > (only 1 week per rank for a weapon or skill) and this is
cauisng a
> > >dilema.
> > > > There are all sorts of factions on the move and stuff
happening in the
> > > > rest
> > > > of the world. It seems that party members need to take 8
weeks out to
> > >put
> > > > rank 8 in a weapon, and it could well be for example the
campaign may
> > > > well
> > > > be over by then, and ending without them!!. Even learning as
they go as
> > >is
> > > > allowed under the rules, lots will happen and the party will
not have
> > >time
> > > > to sepnd the xp.
> > > > One way out i have used thus far is that the dragons they
have helped
> > > > remember that they are in fact angels have powers like a
demon, in that
> > > > time
> > > > in their presence speeds up gaining ranks in some skills and
weapons,
> > >but
> > > > i
> > > > cant do this all the time.
> > > >
> > > > Do others stick to the training guidlines or just forget
them?
> > > >
> > > > JohnD
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.msn.com/DragonquestMajesty/homepage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Yes, I'm running DQ online. There are two threads that I don't think the
current players would appreciate a new player because they've had experience
with people starting and then dropping out it the middle. It is sort of
like the effect of missing a step.

The third thread is
http://mail.success411.com/mailman/listinfo/dragonquest_success411.com, and
it is in immediate care. Quite a few people jumped on board in October and
then stopped about the middle of November.

~Jeffery~

> In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,
>
>> I have two three online threads, one in immediate care and a bi-weekly
>> game.
>
> I'm not sure what this means, exactly. Are you saying that you're
> running DRAGONQUEST on-line? If so, where?
>
> --
> JohnK
> e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
> web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

My campaign has grandchildren!  It's been running since DQ came out and has gone for 150 game years.

 

~Jeffery~

> Yes, I stick to the training guidelines in the book, even though I
> have been running a DQ campaign for the longest time now (on and off);
> heck, even have players playing the children of their original
> characters these days.
>
> "So, Dad, we're thinking of going back to that Ontoncle place -
> what can you tell us about it, since you and Mom have been there,
> weren't you?"
>
> Anyway, the key to remember is that the DQ game world, whichever
> one you happen to be running, is not static, and goes on around the
> players and their characters. The training aspect of the game serves to
> allow the GM to reinforce this fact of life, and can work wonders on a
> group of players who think the world is static around them.
>
> --
> JohnK
> e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
> web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>My campaign has grandchildren! It's been running since DQ came out and has
>gone for 150 game years.

.....
wow, that is a long campaign time. I guess on the otherr side of the coin
the campaign i am running started in october 2005 and includes 2 people who
had never played DQ before.

Ok my question. How many of the following are cumulative, as now a party
memebr can cast one of the spells each

1. Shadowfrom (celestial, shadow)
2. Enchant Armour (shaper)
3. Wraithfom (necromancey)
4. Armour of earth (earth, pacifist).

im guessing that 2 and 3 can be used togther as they do slightly differnet
things and on top of that either of 1 or 4, as they both are very similar.

Never had a party before where the whole group was 'spell users'

It does make for some interesting interaction. As the game is set in the
world of the computer game majesty each spell college is actually allied/a
part of a temple or guild, so everyone constantly has the parties agenda,
thier temple/guilds agenda, their own agenda and the kingdoms agenda.
Currently for example one of the side quests they are doing are finding the
parts of a great magical sphere. It was sundered into 7 parts. After the
last session the 4 members now have one each. Their original thought was if
they find a 5th they would give it to the kings-wife-to-be as a wedding
gift. Bearing in mind each part of the sphere adds +10 to a primary stat as
well as a few minor abilities (except the part of wealth, which the king
already has) . The part they think they have a clue to is +10 to MA. They
had a fantastic debate for a number of hours with 2 party members thinking
that if they got their hands on a +10MA item the chance of them giving it
away is 'not much'. It really showed up one the great qualities of DQ in
that as you get xp at an hourly rate (sort off), in character debate and
heavy roleplaying is rewarded rather than having to kill stuff constantly.
They only have 1 combat every other session normally. They did have one
combat at the begining of the last session against 7 gargoyles. As it took
place outside a twisted high rocky outcrop (think road runner cartoon type
environment) it was very 3D and the party where split amongst the whole
height of this spire. I had to build a small tower out of cups and a empty
humous tub (rpg snack of choice) with mini's hanging off at all angles, it
was absolute nightmare to GM.
Which itself begs another question. How often does something you write look
an absolute brilliant idea on paper and then when you 'play it' it turns out
to be an ordeal to put into practise? seems to happen to me a lot!
am also in the current envious position of taking a year off work, so have
had a lot of time to devote to writing and running current DQ campaign. At
this minute i am trying to drum up inspiration for next mondays session, and
also have a ceiling to paint and a wardrobe to build (hmm...wonder what will
get completed first)

enough waffle.

JohnD


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>
>My campaign has grandchildren! It's been running since DQ came out and has
>gone for 150 game years.
>
>~Jeffery~
>

Yes, I'm running DQ online.  There are two threads that I don't think the
current players would appreciate a new player because they've had experience
with people starting and then dropping out it the middle.  It is sort of
like the effect of missing a step.

The third thread is
http://mail.success411.com/mailman/listinfo/dragonquest_success411.com, and
it is in immediate care.  Quite a few people jumped on board in October and
then stopped about the middle of November.

~Jeffery~

> In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,
>
>> I have two three online threads, one in immediate care and a bi-weekly
>> game.
>
>     I'm not sure what this means, exactly.  Are you saying that you're
> running DRAGONQUEST on-line?  If so, where?
>
> --
>      JohnK
>      e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
>      web:  http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I am interested in keeping things going if other folks are, but I need a few days.  Our newborn infant is still in ICU and that takes precedence.

 

Jason "Ergrim" Honhera

"Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@comcast.net> wrote:

Yes, I'm running DQ online.  There are two threads that I don't think the
current players would appreciate a new player because they've had experience
with people starting and then dropping out it the middle.  It is sort of
like the effect of missing a step.

The third thread is
http://mail.success411.com/mailman/listinfo/dragonquest_success411.com, and
it is in immediate care.  Quite a few people jumped on board in October and
then stopped about the middle of November.

~Jeffery~

> In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,
>
>> I have two three online threads, one in immediate care and a bi-weekly
>> game.
>
>     I'm not sure what this means, exactly.  Are you saying that you're
> running DRAGONQUEST on-line?  If so, where?
>
> --
>      JohnK
>      e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
>      web:  http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
>

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Hullo, Clint,

In a message of February 8th, 2006, you wrote,

> The way I have always done it, is that if they are
> using exp that they have gained durring the adventure
> they can raise ranks with no training time (as long as
> they used the skill durring the adventure) but if they
> are using exp they have gained through practicing then
> they must use the training time.

To be honest with you, I don't believe that this is the way the
rules are written. Using the EPs that one has gained through adventure
or any other means of gaining experience (such as practice and the like)
is specifically governed in the DQ 2nd Edition rules in section [87.5]
on page 143. Training time is *always* required, although if the
character has a teacher/trainer, I tend to lower the time required
somewhat as well, depending on the comparative skill levels of the
characters.

--
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e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, David,

In a message of February 8th, 2006, you wrote,

> I could post Astolfo's journal. Does someone have a good site to
> host it on?

Not at the moment, although I have been considering relaunching my
DRAGONQUEST set of webpages. I'm just not sure there would be all that
much interest in another set of pages (even if they were one of the
earliest out there).

--
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e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Jeffery,

In a message of February 8th, 2006, you wrote,

> Maybe David could be prevailed upon to post Astolfo's Journals to
>the list. (I know he's lurking out there.)

I wouldn't mind seeing this stuff, to be honest. :)

--
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e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Jeffery,

In a message of February 8th, 2006, you wrote,

> My campaign has grandchildren! It's been running since DQ came
>out and has gone for 150 game years.

My original campaign, which ran from when DQ came out in 1980 to
some time in about 1993, had the players playing some of their
characters' grand-children, although most opted for a fresh start at
that point. I remember those days fondly. *sigh*

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, Jeffery,

In a message of February 8th, 2006, you wrote,

> Yes, I'm running DQ online. There are two threads that I don't think the
> current players would appreciate a new player because they've had experience
> with people starting and then dropping out it the middle. It is sort of
> like the effect of missing a step.

I'm not sure what you mean by "threads" here, but I'll check it
out as soon as I get a chance, since I just signed up for the list with
you. I don't necessarily want to be a player right away, but just want
to see what's going on and all that. And if and when I do decide to
play in the game, I won't go away on you; that's not how I tend to play
on-line games, to be honest.

> The third thread is
> http://mail.success411.com/mailman/listinfo/dragonquest_success411.com, and
> it is in immediate care. Quite a few people jumped on board in October and
> then stopped about the middle of November.

*sigh* Yes, this sort of thing happens with PBeM games and those
on-line. People have real lives that get in the way of this sort of
thing. :)

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:03:17 +0000
> From: "davis john" <jrd123@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: campaign time and a spell question
>
> Ok my question. How many of the following are
> cumulative, as now a party
> memebr can cast one of the spells each
>
> 1. Shadowfrom (celestial, shadow)
> 2. Enchant Armour (shaper)
> 3. Wraithfom (necromancey)
> 4. Armour of earth (earth, pacifist).
>
> im guessing that 2 and 3 can be used togther as they
> do slightly differnet
> things and on top of that either of 1 or 4, as they
> both are very similar.

In the various campaigns (all 3rd edition DQ rules
with A LOT of House rules modifications) I have played
in, the GMs handled it differently:

1) GM #1 broke it into groupings of similar spells and
a person could only have 1 from each: Wraithcloak and
Shadowform were Visual Defenses, Enchanted Armor and
Armor of Earth were Personal Defenses, Barrier of Wind
and Force Shield were Barrier Defenses. He also
imposed an exp cost for learning to combine any
defense spell with another defense spell. It would be
1 combination (A with B) to put 2 defense spells on
one person, but 3 combinations (A with B, B with C,
and A with C) to put 3 defense spells on one person.
We were in a high level exp game (characters had rk 20
in the defense spell) so he had set the cost to learn
those combinations at 5500 exp each.

2) GM #2 said you can have only one defense spell up
on a person at a time.

Each GM also ascribed other intangible effects to some
of the Defense spells. Shadowform wasn't effective
against Undead since they detect lifeforce and
wouldn't be confused by patterns of shadows.
Wraithcloak was effective against Undead because he
defined it as also cloaking the lifeforce and at
higher levels could even cause Undead to mistake a
Wraithcloaked individual for another Undead and thus
they would not attack them at all.

I don't know if any of that helps at all.

Mark

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I lump them altogether as protection spells and allow only one to be in
effect at a time on anyone one PC/NPC.

There have been a few PCs (and NPCs) that when detect magic is directed at
them show up like Christmas trees.

> Ok my question. How many of the following are cumulative, as now a party
> memebr can cast one of the spells each
>
> 1. Shadowfrom (celestial, shadow)
> 2. Enchant Armour (shaper)
> 3. Wraithfom (necromancey)
> 4. Armour of earth (earth, pacifist).
>
> im guessing that 2 and 3 can be used togther as they do slightly differnet
> things and on top of that either of 1 or 4, as they both are very similar.
>
> Never had a party before where the whole group was 'spell users'
>
> It does make for some interesting interaction. As the game is set in the
> world of the computer game majesty each spell college is actually allied/a
> part of a temple or guild, so everyone constantly has the parties agenda,
> thier temple/guilds agenda, their own agenda and the kingdoms agenda.
> Currently for example one of the side quests they are doing are finding
> the
> parts of a great magical sphere. It was sundered into 7 parts. After the
> last session the 4 members now have one each. Their original thought was
> if
> they find a 5th they would give it to the kings-wife-to-be as a wedding
> gift. Bearing in mind each part of the sphere adds +10 to a primary stat
> as
> well as a few minor abilities (except the part of wealth, which the king
> already has) . The part they think they have a clue to is +10 to MA. They
> had a fantastic debate for a number of hours with 2 party members thinking
> that if they got their hands on a +10MA item the chance of them giving it
> away is 'not much'. It really showed up one the great qualities of DQ in
> that as you get xp at an hourly rate (sort off), in character debate and
> heavy roleplaying is rewarded rather than having to kill stuff constantly.
> They only have 1 combat every other session normally. They did have one
> combat at the begining of the last session against 7 gargoyles. As it took
> place outside a twisted high rocky outcrop (think road runner cartoon type
> environment) it was very 3D and the party where split amongst the whole
> height of this spire. I had to build a small tower out of cups and a empty
> humous tub (rpg snack of choice) with mini's hanging off at all angles, it
> was absolute nightmare to GM.
> Which itself begs another question. How often does something you write
> look
> an absolute brilliant idea on paper and then when you 'play it' it turns
> out
> to be an ordeal to put into practise? seems to happen to me a lot!
> am also in the current envious position of taking a year off work, so have
> had a lot of time to devote to writing and running current DQ campaign. At
> this minute i am trying to drum up inspiration for next mondays session,
> and
> also have a ceiling to paint and a wardrobe to build (hmm...wonder what
> will
> get completed first)
>
> enough waffle.
>
> JohnD
>
>
> http://groups.msn.com/DragonquestMajesty/homepage
>>
>>My campaign has grandchildren! It's been running since DQ came out and
>>has
>>gone for 150 game years.
>>
>>~Jeffery~
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>> As has been mentioned, there has not been much activity. I still am
>> not role playing and therefore have nothing to add.
>
> Aww, that's a bummer for sure. Not gaming at all, or not
> running/playing DRAGONQUEST these days?

I get a weekly shot of wargaming in (currently Sword of Rome. This
after a run of OCS Sicily). We get to play for an hour and a half to
two hours once a week.

Not enough.

Marty


"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Love is a full time job, with fringe benefits.

"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to
make them all yourself."

You are right. This is just the way I have done it
for my players. I follow my FAVORITE game rule...
governed in the DQ 2nd Edition rules in section [2.1]
on page 2. "GM's [sic] should feel free to add or
delete any of these rules..." As a long time DQ
player (starting in late 1980 with the First Edition
on through today with the 2nd Edition) I have found
that rule to be the best rule of ANY RPG and tends to
shut up rule lawyers, which thankfully, I have not had
to endure many of.

Just my 2 copper farthings worth,
Clint *smile*



--- John M Kahane <jkahane@comnet.ca> wrote:

> Hullo, Clint,
>
> In a message of February 8th, 2006, you wrote,
>
> > The way I have always done it, is that if they are
> > using exp that they have gained durring the
> adventure
> > they can raise ranks with no training time (as
> long as
> > they used the skill durring the adventure) but if
> they
> > are using exp they have gained through practicing
> then
> > they must use the training time.
>
> To be honest with you, I don't believe that
> this is the way the
> rules are written. Using the EPs that one has
> gained through adventure
> or any other means of gaining experience (such as
> practice and the like)
> is specifically governed in the DQ 2nd Edition rules
> in section [87.5]
> on page 143. Training time is *always* required,
> although if the
> character has a teacher/trainer, I tend to lower the
> time required
> somewhat as well, depending on the comparative skill
> levels of the
> characters.
>
> --
> JohnK
> e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
> web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>
>

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Hmm, sounds like old TSR's marketing scheme worked.
Not likely to be assimilated here, can not stand the
endless cycle of hack and slash to gain levels to gain
hitpoints, more powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight
more powerful creatures with more hit points and more
treasure to gain levels to gain hitpoints, more
powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight more powerful
creatures with more hit points and more treasureto
gain levels to gain hitpoints, more powerful weapons,
armour, etc to fight more powerful creatures with more
hit points and more treasureto gain levels to gain
hitpoints, more powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight
more powerful creatures with more hit points and more
treasureto gain levels to gain hitpoints, more
powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight more powerful
creatures with more hit points and more treasure...
AHK! I was caught in a loop... good thing 1000 level
one goblins can not hurt me.. *shakes his head wildely
to clear the nightmare*

*smile*


--- John M Kahane <jkahane@comnet.ca> wrote:

> Hullo, Cameron,
>
> In a message of February 7th, 2006, you wrote,
>
> >> Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here.
> I'm glad *someone*
> >>remembers me.
> >>
> >> So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?
> >
> > I'm afraid I've been pretty fully assimilated by
> 3rd Edition D&D. I haven't
> > run DQ since 1999, and doubt I ever will again.
> It still holds a special
> > place in my heart, but we've "grown apart," if you
> know what I mean. :)
>
> I'm sorry to hear this, Cameron, although I
> can't say that I'm all
> that surprised, to be honest. I think that when
> rpgs don't have a
> "face" out in the market, and when they don't have
> new material coming
> out for them, they seep back into the woodwork and
> aren't seen a lot.
> And players don't want to learn to play new systems
> very often, so...
>
> Shame that the gaming group of yours won't go
> back to it... I seem
> to recall that you had a good time with that game...
>
> > I'm always happy to join in any discussions here
> on the listserv, though.
>
> Glad to hear it. Need folks with experience in
> the game to discuss
> things with, always. :)
>
> --
> JohnK
> e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
> web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>
>
>

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> >> Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here. I'm glad *someone*
> >>remembers me.
> >>
> >> So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?
> >
> > I'm afraid I've been pretty fully assimilated by 3rd Edition D&D. I
>haven't
> > run DQ since 1999, and doubt I ever will again. It still holds a
>special
> > place in my heart, but we've "grown apart," if you know what I mean. :)
>
> I'm sorry to hear this, Cameron, although I can't say that I'm all
>that surprised, to be honest. I think that when rpgs don't have a
>"face" out in the market, and when they don't have new material coming
>out for them, they seep back into the woodwork and aren't seen a lot.
>And players don't want to learn to play new systems very often, so...
>
> Shame that the gaming group of yours won't go back to it...

Oh, it's not THEM. It's me. I've never even mentioned DQ to them.

I'm not going to bother "defending" D&D 3.x (I'm having an absolute blast
with it, but it's not for everybody), but suffice to say that D&D has come a
long way in three decades. At this point, I would simply rather play D&D
than DQ.

It's kind of sad in a way, but there you have it. :)

Now, if SPI hadn't gone under, and DQ were being supported the way D&D is
now...that would probably be an entirely different story!

-Cameron

Hullo, folks,

Once upon a time, I seem to recall seeing a version for the
College of Bardic Magics somewhere. Anyone know where I can find that
material again?

--
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e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, folks,

Once upon a time, I seem to recall seeing a version for the
College of Bardic Magics somewhere. Anyone know where I can find that
material again?

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo. folks,

I remember at one time that Holwinkle's Ye Olde DragonQuest Page
had a series of new and additional spell files. When I went to the
site, the spell files were not there through the links. Does anyoen
have copies of that material lying around, or any other new and
additional magic talents, spells, and rituals for the game?

If so, I would appreciate any material that folks might have.
Thank, in advance. :)

--
JohnK
e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

The College of Bardic Magics was included in the
Seagate Adventurer's Guild house rules. I don't know
if they are still posting that material online, what
with copyright issues and all.

Mort

--- John M Kahane <jkahane@comnet.ca> wrote:

> Hullo, folks,
>
> Once upon a time, I seem to recall seeing a
> version for the
> College of Bardic Magics somewhere. Anyone know
> where I can find that
> material again?
>
> --
> JohnK
> e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
> web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>
>

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> The College of Bardic Magics was included in the
> Seagate Adventurer's Guild house rules. I don't know
> if they are still posting that material online, what
> with copyright issues and all.

www.dragonquest.org.nz

We are still here and still online :0-)

Mandos
/s

If the journals are just text (or can be easily converted to text),
I'd be happy to put them into the dqnewsletter file space, and make
them available from there.

--Rodger

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "trumpetmmb" <david_novak@...> wrote:
>
> I could post Astolfo's journal. Does someone have a good site to
> host it on?
>
> David

I produced a modified version in my Things Spiritual (files section of
DQ-rules). I don't know if its the same as the Seagate version, if it
is I appologise for not crediting you, and will if you let me know (I
can't find it on your site)

David

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, John M Kahane <jkahane@...> wrote:
>
> Hullo, folks,
>
> Once upon a time, I seem to recall seeing a version for the
> College of Bardic Magics somewhere. Anyone know where I can find that
> material again?
>
> --
> JohnK
> e-mail: jkahane@...
> web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane
>

Gentlemen,
DQ isn't a dead game system by any means. The New Zealand, Seagate
Adventurers Guild (with around 50 full time players) is still going strong
with several (4-8) games being played weekly for 13 weeks and then the
quarterly 'session' changing and new games announced.

The game is still loved and being played. Check out these links below,
especially our wiki collection of information, errata and source of goodies
from our worlds, characters and interesting minds ;-)

http://dq.sf.org.nz/library

http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Main_Page

I know we in New Zealand are far away from the States but we're keeping the
game alive.
Cheers
Chris

Welcome back John
and Hi there Jason

>From: Jason Winter <JasonWinter@scicable.com>
>Reply-To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
>To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DQN-list] Hello, and List Still Active?
>Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:07:33 -0600
>
>I'm still here and still a fan. I've been running a DQ campaign
>since the mid 80's, although it's currently only played 4 or 5
>weekends a year now sadly. About 4 months ago we started a PBEM game
>using 2nd edition AD&D just for it's simplicity of use in
>email. We've also recently discovered Fantasy Grounds and have
>started running Online sessions weekly. I'm not a fan of 3rd edition
>and so I never plan on running or playing a session of that
>again. :-) To each his own they say!
>
>
>At 07:03 PM 2/7/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >>From: John M Kahane <jkahane@comnet.ca>
> >>
> >> Hey, Cameron, good to see you're still here. I'm glad *someone*
> >>remembers me.
> >>
> >> So, how are you? Still running DRAGONQUEST?
> >
> >I'm afraid I've been pretty fully assimilated by 3rd Edition D&D. I
>haven't
> >run DQ since 1999, and doubt I ever will again. It still holds a
>special
> >place in my heart, but we've "grown apart," if you know what I mean. :)
> >
> >I'm always happy to join in any discussions here on the listserv,
>though.
> >
> >-Cameron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Hullo, Chris,

In a message of February 13th, 2006, you wrote,

> DQ isn't a dead game system by any means.

I probably should have sounded more facetious when I posted the
original mail about this, but to be honest, I'm glad it garnered all
manner of resposne. :)

[lots snipped]

> I know we in New Zealand are far away from the States but we're keeping the
> game alive.

And I'm grateful to you for this. Now, if only I lived in
Australia or New Zealand. *sigh*

> Welcome back John

Thanks. Much appreciated. :)

--
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e-mail: jkahane@comnet.ca
web: http://www.comnet.ca/~jkahane

Hullo, JohnD,

Nice to see that at least one of the other Johns is still around on
the list... :)

In a message of February 9th, 2006, you wrote,

> Ok my question. How many of the following are cumulative, as now a party
> memebr can cast one of the spells each
>
> 1. Shadowfrom (celestial, shadow)
> 2. Enchant Armour (shaper)
> 3. Wraithfom (necromancey)
> 4. Armour of earth (earth, pacifist).
>
> im guessing that 2 and 3 can be used togther as they do slightly differnet
> things and on top of that either of 1 or 4, as they both are very similar.

Hmm, interesting question. One that is really a "stacking"
question when it comes down to it. :)

I would personally argue that none of the above spells are mutually
exclusive, although perhaps the philosophy behind Pacifistic Earth
Magics doesn't necessarily go along with the Necromancy spell. Enchant
Armour and Wraithcloak definitely do things differently, so are
definitely not mutually exclusive.

However, this comes down to something else as well. If the spells
in question come from opposed Elements, than they should not be
stackable; I might also rule that if they come from different Branches
of magic they might or might not be stackable, depending on how you view
the Branches in your game world.

I've onoy had this come up a couple of times, where the parties had
multiple mages in the group. Most of the players that I've had tend to
prefer a one mage/all others non-mages character group, since they find
it gives better balance in all regards, but does limit the group
somewhat in terms of magical style. Minor magic items that can detect
auras and the like are quite useful, of course, and worth their weight
in gold. <g>

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> It really showed up one the great qualities of DQ in
> that as you get xp at an hourly rate (sort off), in character debate and
> heavy roleplaying is rewarded rather than having to kill stuff constantly.

Not to mention being wounded and/or killed... :)

> Which itself begs another question. How often does something you write look
> an absolute brilliant idea on paper and then when you 'play it' it turns out
> to be an ordeal to put into practise? seems to happen to me a lot!

Doesn't happen to me a lot, but part of this also has to do with
the fact that I like to take standardized, stereotypical plots and give
them a spin or twist.

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Hullo, Clint,

In a message of February 9th, 2006, you wrote,

> Hmm, sounds like old TSR's marketing scheme worked.
> Not likely to be assimilated here, can not stand the
> endless cycle of hack and slash to gain levels to gain
> hitpoints, more powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight
> more powerful creatures with more hit points and more
> treasure to gain levels to gain hitpoints, more
> powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight more powerful
> creatures with more hit points and more treasureto
> gain levels to gain hitpoints, more powerful weapons,
> armour, etc to fight more powerful creatures with more
> hit points and more treasureto gain levels to gain
> hitpoints, more powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight
> more powerful creatures with more hit points and more
> treasureto gain levels to gain hitpoints, more
> powerful weapons, armour, etc to fight more powerful
> creatures with more hit points and more treasure...
> AHK! I was caught in a loop... good thing 1000 level
> one goblins can not hurt me.. *shakes his head wildely
> to clear the nightmare*
>
> *smile*

hehe Good "rant" that was. :)

For my part, I abandoned D&D way back when RUNEQUEST came out and
then played DRAGONQUEST, and have only varied off course into several
fantasy systems over the years - ARS MAGICA, FIFTH CYCLE, AGONE, THE
DYING EARTH (still one of my favourite fantasy rpgs), and ARROWFLIGHT.
Always seem to come back to DRAGONQUEST, though... :)

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Hullo, Clint,

In a message of February 9th, 2006, you wrote,

> You are right. This is just the way I have done it
> for my players. I follow my FAVORITE game rule...
> governed in the DQ 2nd Edition rules in section [2.1]
> on page 2. "GM's [sic] should feel free to add or
> delete any of these rules..." As a long time DQ
> player (starting in late 1980 with the First Edition
> on through today with the 2nd Edition) I have found
> that rule to be the best rule of ANY RPG and tends to
> shut up rule lawyers, which thankfully, I have not had
> to endure many of.

Agreed. :) You didn't say it was a House Rule, though, so I just
thought I'd point out the actual rule. (If there can be said to be one,
what with the various different editions of DQ out there and all the
various individual game House Rules and all.)

> Just my 2 copper farthings worth,

What, no inflation...should be worth at least 1 sp by now. :)

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Hullo, folks,

Thanks to everyone for posting to me, both privately and on the
mailing list, about the Bardic Magics stuff. Went to the Seagate Guild
and picked up the massive Rules manual that has them in it.

One question... does anyone know if the new and additional magics
were created using the spell system from ARCANE WISDOM?

Again, folks, thanks.

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Hullo, Marty,

In a message of February 9th, 2006, you wrote,

>>>As has been mentioned, there has not been much activity. I still am
>>>not role playing and therefore have nothing to add.
>>
>> Aww, that's a bummer for sure. Not gaming at all, or not
>>running/playing DRAGONQUEST these days?
>
> I get a weekly shot of wargaming in (currently Sword of Rome. This
> after a run of OCS Sicily). We get to play for an hour and a half to
> two hours once a week.

Well, that's not too bad, although I can see where you might want
more. Wargaming is good, I guess, but no substitute for roleplaying
(and vice versa).

> Not enough.

Definitely not enough DRAGONQUEST.

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