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Subject: Re: [DQN-list] New Member and on-line gaming

In a message dated 10/4/2005 1:23:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, igmod@comcast.net writes:

"Anyone know of any games like this going on on-line?  Anyone want to start
one?"

Yes and yes, if there is more than one person interested.

~Jeffery~

I'd be interested.  Bob

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Knowles" <scott.knowles@c...> wrote:
> I too would be interested.
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> In a message dated 10/4/2005 1:23:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, igmod@c... writes:
> "Anyone know of any games like this going on on-line? Anyone want to start
> one?"
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> Yes and yes, if there is more than one person interested.
>
> ~Jeffery~
> I'd be interested. Bob
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Jason Honhera <albavar@y...> wrote:
> Arcane Wisdom was sent around covertly from one of the developers after the TSR
buyout. The other products never saw completion. I believe that the World Generator
progressed quite a ways, but no one has even drafts of it.
>
> caliban331 <caliban331@y...> wrote:Reading through the vast amount of information
here and the ARES articles I see mentions of
> things I never knew about. I was wondering if anyone knew what ever happened to some
of
> this stuff.
>
> I see that ARCANE WISDOM has become available to us and that it was originally decided
to
> be pulled as a stand alone product and included in "DragonQuest Level II" along with an
> expanded 'MonsterQuest' supplement.... although there is an ad for it as 'the fourth
book' in
> Ares #12
>
> How did we end up with Arcane Wisdom and has anyone ever seen this MONSTERQUEST
?
>
> There's mention of a Steve Jackson designed WORLD GENERATION addition, any word
what
> ever happened with that?
>
> In ARES # 10, Gerry Klug mentions he is doing a complete redesign on the combat
system
> that will be incorporated into v. 3. Did any of that ever appear?
>
>

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, Jason Honhera <albavar@y...> wrote:
> joned up where? or just saying you are interested?
>
> caliban331 <caliban331@y...> wrote:Joined up, Jeffery. I'm re-reading the book
now--- have to be thinking of what I want to
> do with a character.
>
>
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, igmod@c... wrote:
> >
> > I think 6-8 to start with as we sort things out and get everyone up to speed.
> >
> > Once we have a meeting point, I'll provide some history/culture info and explain how
> I'm use to running online gaming.
> >
> > But those that are going to play, start thinking about your character, including
> personality.
> >
> > Some basic points - Giants, big and may not always fit in; the uninformed masses
view
> shapechangers as lycanthropes; Greater Summoning is illegal (doesn't mean you can't
> play, but keep in mind, if caught, execution); Black Mages must be liscensed (expensive,
> unless you want to be an illegal one).
> >
> > There's more about the world to learn, but that's the quickie version.
> >
> > ~Jeffery~
> >
> > > Fantastic. It sounds like we've got the makings of a gaming group!
> > >
> > > I could set up a forum or a mailing list situation based on what people would
> > > prefer and
> > > what people's experiences say is best.
> > >
> > > My initial thought is a message board since that's my experience but an email
> > > list would
> > > work too. I'm totally open.
> > >
> > > So we've got you, Jeffery, Jason, Bob and me so far. Perhaps we can invite
> > > some folks
> > > from that list and some of the members of the DQPA as well.
> > >
> > > What size group would you like to have playing, Jeffery?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill" wrote:
> > > > > is that a 'yes' to knowing any DQ games going on online? I'd love to know
> > > > where.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but it moved from http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lieah/ to a
> > > > private list as the players got tired of waiting for messages to appear from
> > > > Yahoo. The list has been inactive for quite some time, but the players have
> > > > several threads going. In fact, the players have written several books
> > > > based on these adventures and are trying to sell them.
> > > >
> > > > > As to starting up a new one I would be happy to volunteer in any way I can
> > > > but in all
> > > > > honesty I'd rather play then GM.
> > > >
> > > > No problem. I've GMed offline and on for 26 years (gack!)
> > > >
> > > > > I could also offer to set up a private message board off one of my domains
> > > > for this
> > > > > purpose as well.
> > > >
> > > > Whatever works.
> > > >
> > > > ~Jeffery~
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>Jeffery was really right. It's taking FOREVER for
>message to end up being emailed out. This is nuts.
>
>I've never noticed this with any other yahoo group
>I've belonged to (actually several I had to quit
>because of the massive volume) and this is slow beyond
>words.

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "D. Cameron King" <monarchy2000@h...> wrote:
> >Jeffery was really right. It's taking FOREVER for
> >message to end up being emailed out. This is nuts.
> >
> >I've never noticed this with any other yahoo group
> >I've belonged to (actually several I had to quit
> >because of the massive volume) and this is slow beyond
> >words.
>
>
> For whatever it's worth, I've been having the same problem with another
> yahoo group, but only for the last couple weeks. I wonder what's going on?
>
> -Cameron

>For whatever it's worth, I've been having the same problem with

>yahoo group, but only for the last couple weeks. I wonder

>
>-Cameron

On 10/5/05, D. Cameron King <monarchy2000@hotmail.com> wrote:

For whatever it's worth, I've been having the same problem with another
yahoo group, but only for the last couple weeks.  I wonder what's going on?

Yahoogroups periodically has this problem, in which messages will be delayed and/or come out of sequence. Eventually, it passes. I imagine this will, too, shortly.

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> This brings up a question I've been meaning to ask. What is the
> most approved version of the rules to most folk?

> > This brings up a question I've been meaning to ask. What is the
> > most approved version of the rules to most folk?
>
> We play a heavily edited varient for our campaign which you can see

> www.dragonquest.org.nz
>
> Mandos
> /s

> Wow, Mandos.... that is a seriously organized site you got there. Wow.

> Right now I'm trying to get back into DQ after not reading the rules
> or playing for a decade or more and am reading through all the stuff
> here so I'm not going to start reading all your stuff right now but I
> am thrilled to see it all!

> Care to give us a brief overview of what sort of adaptations and
> changes you've made or at least what areas and how you came about it.

> I've bookmarked your site and when I get through everything here I'll
> start reading it all... someday. :)

> It is pretty difficult to get to those higher levels. Firsty you have to
> try to cast some of those 1% base chance spells, and then the xp cost
> jumps exponentially. For an 850 xp multiple spell it will cost 17,000 xp
> to go from 19 to 20. Even at hero level that is nearly a dozen play
> sessions to get a single Rank, meanwhile other spells are decaying...

--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, dq@j... wrote:
> Well in my case, it was a fire mage who specialized in Bolt of
Fire and
> ball of fire. He invested a couple of rings, and on a short
adventure, he
> was just a cannon. And I don't think we abused the rules either.
In
> fact, I severly limited the amount of "off-time" exp they could
gain. But
> after 4 years of playing twice a month, he was pretty much the
center of
> the party's offensive plan. And the other players became a bit
jealous. I
> mean someone had struggled ot get max rank in saber, and he had a
lot les
> to contribute. Outside of comabt, the other players obviously had
a great
> advantage. So I guess my concern is combat specific.
>
> In your reply, it does not sound like this happned in your game.
Is there
> anyone else who had this happen in their game? And if it did, how
did you
> handle it?
>
> Thanks
> JohnC
>
> > It is pretty difficult to get to those higher levels. Firsty
you have to
> > try to cast some of those 1% base chance spells, and then the xp
cost
> > jumps exponentially. For an 850 xp multiple spell it will cost
17,000 xp
> > to go from 19 to 20. Even at hero level that is nearly a dozen
play
> > sessions to get a single Rank, meanwhile other spells are
decaying...

>From: Jason Honhera <albavar@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
>To: dqn-list@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DQN-list] High level discrepancy
>Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 07:53:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>It is pretty difficult to get to those higher levels. Firsty you have to
>try to cast some of those 1% base chance spells, and then the xp cost jumps
>exponentially. For an 850 xp multiple spell it will cost 17,000 xp to go
>from 19 to 20. Even at hero level that is nearly a dozen play sessions to
>get a single Rank, meanwhile other spells are decaying...
>

> The most unballancing character I've ever played with was a lesser
> summoner. Nothing like wandering in the wilderness with someone who
> can control nearly every monster to turn a dangerous adventure into
> a walk in the park.

>
> Well in my case, it was a fire mage who specialized in Bolt of

> ball of fire. He invested a couple of rings, and on a short

> was just a cannon. And I don't think we abused the rules either.

> fact, I severly limited the amount of "off-time" exp they could

> after 4 years of playing twice a month, he was pretty much the

> the party's offensive plan. And the other players became a bit

> mean someone had struggled ot get max rank in saber, and he had a

> to contribute. Outside of comabt, the other players obviously had

> advantage. So I guess my concern is combat specific.

>
> In your reply, it does not sound like this happned in your game.

> anyone else who had this happen in their game? And if it did, how

> handle it?
>
> Thanks
> JohnC
>
> > It is pretty difficult to get to those higher levels. Firsty

> > try to cast some of those 1% base chance spells, and then the xp

> > jumps exponentially. For an 850 xp multiple spell it will cost

> > to go from 19 to 20. Even at hero level that is nearly a dozen

> > sessions to get a single Rank, meanwhile other spells are

>

> Is this a play by post campaign or are you planning
> on using something
> like OpenRPG?
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--- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill" <igmod@c...> wrote:
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> It is play by post, I have no idea what OpenRPG is.
>
> ~Jeffery~
>
>
> > Is this a play by post campaign or are you planning on using something
> > like OpenRPG?
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> It is play by post, I have no idea what OpenRPG is.
>
> ~Jeffery~
>

>
> > Is this a play by post campaign or are you planning on using

> > like OpenRPG?
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>
> I see that some people think that the World
> Generation design was in some way incorporated into
> the first version of GURPS and Phil Wright mentioned
> he had an early version of it but didn't want to send it
> out there until he got some feedback from Steve on it...
> is Phil still around?

> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "caliban331" <caliban331@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I see that some people think that the World
> > Generation design was in some way incorporated into
> > the first version of GURPS and Phil Wright mentioned
> > he had an early version of it but didn't want to send it
> > out there until he got some feedback from Steve on it...
> > is Phil still around?
>
> Yup. I'm still here.
>
> I've had a few exchanges with Steve but haven't been able to get any
> kind of real answer out of him on the issue. I didn't want to press
> too hard on the matter but I'll ping him again and see if anything
> comes up.
>
> Here is an overview of what's in it.
>
> The overall world generation part of it doesn't have a lot that hasn't
> been covered in various rules and game expansions since the 80's. It
> does have an expanded description on mana-levels and mana-rich areas,
> the kinds of critters to be found and more variability on the effects
> to mages in the area. Also includes the odd weather effects in
> mana-rich areas like that found in the in the Enchanted Wood
> adventure. There is a large section on diseases and plagues.
>
> Another section covers guilds for the various skills in DQ. Costs and
> benefits of being in the guilds. What they can/will do for others.
> Fairly typical stuff.
>
> There are sections on magic houses (colleges) and what is the typical
> attire for mages of a college, the organizational structure of the
> house and costs & benefits for belonging to a magic house.
>
> A section on religions and PC involvement with them.
>
> The more interesting section to me is that on Group Magic. This
> section has a number of spells & rituals for the various colleges that
> is performed by groups of mages.
>
> The usability of a lot of it would depend on how developed is your own
> campaign setting.
>
> Hopefully Steve will give me his blessing to release it.
>
> Phil
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> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:53:29 -0000
> From: "David Chappell" <kaith_athanes@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: New Member and on-line gaming
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill"
> <igmod@c...> wrote:
> >
> > It is play by post, I have no idea what OpenRPG is.
> >

> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:53:29 -0000
> From: "David Chappell" <kaith_athanes@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: New Member and on-line gaming
>
> --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill"
> <igmod@c...> wrote:
> >
> > It is play by post, I have no idea what OpenRPG is.
> >

> Hi, People!
> Out of curiosity, how can a combat be handled in a play by post game? Dou

> of rules to share?
> Thank you in advance and best regards... Arturo
>
> > Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:53:29 -0000
> > From: "David Chappell" <kaith_athanes@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: New Member and on-line gaming
> >
> > --- In dqn-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffery K. McGonagill"
> > <igmod@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > > It is play by post, I have no idea what OpenRPG is.
> > >
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>Hi folks! I am back from a several month long real world induced
>break. I know when I left I promised I would start working on fixes
>to the Combined Weapon List, and I would give updates on my new
>campaign. I will do both of those shortly, once I catch up on a few
>things.
>
>In preparing for the campaign I started reviewing the bestiary for DQ.
> While fairly fascinating, covering a large number of real world and
>mythical creatures, it's not what one would call extensive. I was
>wondering if anyone has compiled any additional creatures, especially
>those from the myths and legends of the world. I would be very
>interested in seeing this. Failing that, I guess I will have to start
>my own list. Either way, it will be fun to see and use some "new"
>creatures.
>
>Stephen Miller
>Ancient Gamer and Curmudgeon
>
>

>I have some that could be added I'm willing to submit
>
>Has anyone seen Bard games Atlantis system, I've got the beastuary and
>its stats are basically DQ's with int added. It looks like a 3D6
>based system, easiy to convert to 5-25 range and works well with
>monsters common to both. This could be used as a DQ reference (some
>interesting monsters). But I don't have any of the system book and I
>wondered if anyone had the system and could offer any insights as to
>how valid this conversion would be?
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>Quote "A lot of these critters are from the
>medium high to very high end compared to the bog standard DQ creatures,
>and some of them are absolutely ridiculous (e.g. the Elemental Royals,
>elemental creatures that rule the Elementals Planes). Of course, if
>anybody has cause to summon these ridiculous critters, never mind the
>capacity to do so, then something is most definitely rotten in <insert
>campaign world here> and in serious need of drastic fixing".
>
>This does beg the question why bother to spend time statting them up?
>
>Just curious
>
>JohnD.
>
>
>

>One of my players has a Greater Summoner, and he wanted to know how I
>would interpret the following about Camio, one of the demonic presidents:
>
>"Camio is a great linguist and will willingly teach his summoner the
>languages of birds and mammals and also teach him to understand what
>has passed in a place by reading the speech of running waters."
>
>My on-the-spot interpretation is that there is one bird language, and
>one language for each of the subcategories of mammals (felines, great
>land mammals, riding animals, etc.) These languages only go to a
>maximum of Rank 4 however.
>
>Have any of the rest of you dealt with this? How have you interpreted
>this?
>
>Let's have some discussion in this group again,
>
>Rodger

>From: John M Kahane <jkahane@comnet.ca>
>(Hope some folks here still remember me, if
>nothing else.) :)

On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:40 AM, John M Kahane wrote:

> Hullo, folks,
>
> Well, after a long absence here on the mailing list, I thought I
> would return and say hello. (Hope some folks here still remember
> me, if
> nothing else.) :)
>
> So is this list still active, or is there another DQ forum
> somewhere else that I don't know about?
>
> --
> JohnK
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